depends on what kind of help you are talking about

there is Mind

there is also the UK BP Forum which is online I know but they run real life support groups

The Samaritans

Saneline

Okay - sorry.

I would like to speak to someone in the hope of feeling better, I would really like to try medication again but it has been so bad in the past I would need to have an active involvement (i.e. not seeing someone once every 6 months (GP/ NHS) treatment)

So - I've spoken to Samaritans - they say go to A&E and/ or they cannot help it isn't something they can deal with.

Mind - don't seem to know what to say, they just said - "we cannot recommend or advise on people for you to speak to"

I am not sure about the BP forum or Saneline - have you tried them? Honestly - do they offer practical help? I feel a bit of a dick, but I just want someone to say more than " you are too weird, go somewhere else"... :/

NHS has been beyond useless - try this drug, try this one come back in 6 months and they only have the budget - I quote "If you will kill someone or kill yourself"... If I say yes, I'm suicidal, I go to hospital, lose my job, lose my family, lose everything... but they won't do anything unless I say one of those two things and am locked away :'(

Sometimes we have to ascend mountains all on our own. I got some help here in the US ...I can't deny that .. but truthfully .. I pretty much fixed myself with my own head ... OH ... and must admit .. a daily dose of two well known antidepressant medications.

To be fair, my disability of PTSD surfaced mostly as depression. No Bipolar, self harm, or addiction. Mostly depression/anxiety/anger.

I have tried so many medications - I would love to be able to take certain types, basically sedatives, Valium, Xanax, etc, but because the doctors here think I will kill myself with them - that was my sarcasm foolishness, if I wanted to kill myself I could go buy a knife, a bottle of bleach etc - they won't give them to me.

All I can have, so far, is anti- psychotics, or anti- depressants, which don't work for me - because they don't treat my condition! Or are just lame... Easy example, prozac, I vomit all over all the walls...

Here I have less than 5 minutes to talk to someone, after a wait of two weeks. Or I do the US way (as I understand it) of saving money for two months to go private, then overpay for a prescription and save for more time to go assess it.....

It sucks being poor and depressed.

But thank you for your reply, I am glad you feel better.

How did you fix your own head?

I have to do that and would appreciate some advice.

>>How did you fix your own head?

Simple question / hard answer.

In its simplest form, I took an intensely pragmatic approach. I took a look at my reactions to things ... and stopped 'going' like that. Single minded determination. Took the most righteous paths I could come up with. Something I must do for the rest of my life. Took/takes tremendous concentration ..but it works .. immediately.

the NHS is shite bcs it all depends where you live...... I've been extremely lucky... or shall we say unlucky as I've been sectioned every year for the past 3 years so the treatment I get has been really good - I have 3 mental health workers looking after me and a shrink.. but you are right... you have to be either a danger to yourself or others.. but it sounds like you have been given a crap shoot GP/shrink wise.... go away and come back in 6 months? that's an effing joke

I've never tried saneline.. it's just a number we are given here if we are in crisis..... we have a crisis line but you have to be in the system already... which is useless for people like yourself.... I'll go get the link for BP UK for you... there is an online forum like here but they do run real life support groups.... a new one has just started where I live.... I don't know if they give phone support or something... I'll try go and find out

http://www.bipolaruk.org.uk/

check to see if there is a local support group..... fingers crossed there is bcs I find mine invaluable...... yip you won't get meds but you will get support and may be able to point you in the right direction of an advocate or someone similar who can work with you bcs you need some help from somewhere

and try the online forum bcs it is British and therefore you might get more relevant help and advice

hope this helps

First of all, you are not 'Odd at all"... Look at my profile and you will feel right at home. There are a lot of people on the different sites from the UK and I'm hoping someone can help you with your questions. Don't give up and join all the support groups that you think will help you until you find what you are looking for, and even after that. Hugs GB

I had the same bad experiences with doctors this is why I refuse to seek help because it terrifies me.

I know they is a part of the hospital, which is for mentally ill people where I live you don't have to be a danger to yourself or anyone they're three parts one if you're not so bad(sign yourself in due to feeling depressed or able to cope alone) which my mother in law is in, then the other two are for mor severe problems like if your are harming or a danger to yourself.

I don't know your gender, but for women they is women's scenter. I don't think if you sign yourself in for help it will be career destroying your allowed to leave to go out anytime just got to be back for dinner tea and bed and they will help yo u with mess and free counselling

hugs hope you get some support

There is also a place that's not an instature.that you can stay for a few weeks this is not hospital ill have a look to see if they have them everywhere In uk