very true.

Very true. My best friend committed suicide in March of 2005 and I still really haven't dealt with it. It hurts so much.

Only reason I'm still here is that I think it's too selfish of me to end my pain at the expense of my family's grief. I will stay and endure so they won't feel the hurt I do.

this kind of post really gets to me sometimes despite the intent behind it.

Do not pass go.

Do not collect 200$

Fuckin suits me fine.

I do agree that it is important to think how it will effect your family and friends if you were to commit suicide, but I think Inis has a point. I do not think this is what people nessesarily need to hear when they are hurting. I think it is important to help people find reasons to want to live for themselves. I know when people tell me that, it just makes me feel worse, and like I deserve to die for thining about it. Because if I can think about putting my family through that then they would be better off without me anyways. I am not trying to argue, and I respect everybody's opinion, I just think it is wrong to make a person who is already in great pain focus on how much they would be hurting their family. Instead I think people should emphasize how much they are loved and how much they would be missed if they werent here, but without bringing in the guilt factor because at least with me, it really does not help.

Take a moment and think of the amount of pain someone would have to be in to think of ending his or her life. To be in that place, that dark, lonely, empty place and to know of no other way out, to believe that you will only forever live in that hell of pain and self-torture is something that so many people will never understand. When I was suicidal, hearing that I was being selfish made me angry because I knew the people who told me that could never understand how I felt inside. You think I'm selfish for wanting to end the pain? I think you're selfish for wanting me to stay in it just so YOU don't have to HURT over ME. From where I stand in the suicidal corner, I think your life will eventually be better off without me anyway.

Yes, being successful in any attempts to kill myself would have been devestating to a lot of my family. Yes, my failed attempts to kill myself caused a lot of problems within my family. Yes, tomorrow is another day and I'm damn lucky to see it.

BUT:

Don't tell the suicidal person that she will hurt her family or that she is being selfish. Don't simply tell him that the shadow only proves the sunshine. She can't see that. All he can see or feel is how much he hurts inside. You need to be there for her, to love her and support her. You need to pray for him and try to relate or identify with what he is going through. Admit to her that you can't possibly imagine how much it must hurt inside to think that killing herself is the only way to end the pain.

Think about it. Step back and take a moment to consider that pain, even if you can't understand it.

I was lucky. I was lucky that, despite my parents incapability of dealing with me & my issues, God had a strong hold on me (MUCH against my will). I was lucky that my parents didn't deny me professional help. I was lucky that they were willing to listen to said help. I was lucky that, even if they didn't understand it or personally handle it correctly, they were supportive of outside means to help me get well.

Be supportive, not accusing, comdemning or condescending. Don't lecture, pray. Don't offer hollow phrases that mean nothing to someone who has heard it a million times before and still wants to end it all.

Most importantly: THINK about it.

I have to agree with wiffleball. she said it perfectly. also, i have to add, sometimes they (family and friends) SHOULD have and could have done something to prevent it. not always, but sometimes.

Agree xx

I did not mean what I said to hurt anyone but it seems to be a reoccurring thought nowdays. Sometimes a person is in so much pain that they don't consider how their actions might effect their family. Everyone has someone that loves them, even if they don't always show it. I read that a young man committed suicide on a webcam over the internet and that no one did anything until it was too late. The father later said he was appalled that no one did anything and that it was a big loss to him. The father was at work when it happened.

I don't want to sound confrentational here, but what IF, its become your last & only resort? When all avenues to get better, have been exhausted (i.e. medication, therapies, pain-managemet for those with Chronic Pain such as myself etc...).
When your SO alone in the world, because your family & society want nothing to do with you anymore (in other words you basically don't exist).
When your hopes, and dreams disapear with the snap of a finger. What is left? How can one picture tommorrow, if they can not even make it through today? (I speak for myself when I ay that).
Now, before the red-flags come up, i'm not saying that i'm @ this point right now. But, I would like to know is: What would you do? For some, Suicide I the ONLY option left for them.

I agree with Kurt taking the choice to end your life is the hardest choice of your life.I've been there for whatever reason i came through but the choice i took at the time was by no way an easy option.

I agree with Donna Hugs Lexi

I don't think it's wrong to think about it.
Just realize it's not something desireable for anyone to do.
I think about it pretty much all the time.
I can't help that.It has become my nature.

the only reason I am still here is because I DO NOT want to have to come back ( in next life ) to this stickin place. everyone that knows me knows I can't stand being here. Why is it that people know you have depression yet still make things worse for ya ?