I have a feeling the potatoes, bread, cereal, etc. manufacturers had a hand in this. If I ate that way the doctors and hospitals would have a field day with me. Who wrote that guide - an enemy of the diabetic ????

This seems to have been the current advice 14 years ago,
one problem with stuff stored on a computer is unless its dated and more importantly kept up to date you can be getting old, bad information.

If you read something in a book its fairly easy to find out on the inside page when it was printed
Not so easily done when its online.

This guide should read what not to eat for diabetics
I guess in 95 you had to use colour charts and blood glucose monitors were not available.

A diabetic friend of mine, years ago, would weight out every morsel of food he ate, I have never done this
He also use special diabetic plates as I remember with small sections for certain types of food
he also had a timer and at work it would go off when it was time to eat . Always went off when there was any hard work just starting up
used to drive the boss mad.

I have to agree with Arline also on this. Just as you said when you look at some of the recipes for diabetic..Huh?
I used to weigh food at first cause I had a scale. But then as most know I went on Sugar Busters adding some carbs and to me it works, I eat good and my tests are good if I don't cheat.
This is why I think so many are confused, the ADA is telling you eat white rice, potatoes , starches, rolls and when you do your BS goes up for most. But it keeps their jobs doesn't it.

That sounds like the diabetic diet they gave me in the hospital.. I couldnt believe it. FULL of starches. One meal, I remember was white bread, white rice and mashed potatos.. that was it! I couldnt believe it.. no protein, fruit, nothing.. just that! I wonder if they were using that same diabetic diet from years ago.. makes you wonder, eh?

There is something I do agree with, and I love to share with all of you here. I love the small plate since it makes me eat less and not forcing me too. I hate the plates which force me to eat very little of each, but I want to enjoy my meal and not pay tons of money to do so. I found the plate I loved with my grandmother and it looked very nice, but I accidentally broke both of them and then I found two of the Made in USA plate which I could afford them and I will get more of them if they have more of them. I don't agree with much of the emails about healthy living and so its a biggie when I find things I can agree with. I am having to drink juice which is only 25% fruit juice and it has HFCS, but I wasn't looking close enough and I will look much closer the next time, which I hate, although I get the 100% the next time I go to the Wally World, but that's all I have for now.

Yea I strange how food advice changes, too many vested interests making unfounded claims,

Whats the point of testing blood glucose when the medics are giving out diet sheets recommending bread and potatoes
All those books that recommend juicing as so healthy Now you hear its too concentrated and an unnatural way to take fruit,
I have only heard bad stuff about HFCS They should be avoided like the plague.

And canned soups have too much salt, Every thing has too much salt.
Coconuts were the worst thing to eat a few years back.Now they are on the OK list ,

No wonder people without any apparent health problems just give up and eat whatever.
I'm still on the low GI diet,
But at the back of my mind is the thought when my weight is down I be able to go back to eating normally
as if I won't then, pile it all on again!

You are right, lostonrye. If we lose our weight and dont keep up just about the same path, we WILL put all the weight back on. I can eat potatos, so I cant say anything there, but white bread, starches, even coconut, I cant eat. I cant have any salt, so no canned or processed foods for me. So I have to have low salt, low fat, low starch diet... like what can I eat? It is really hard.....

Hi Goldilox2
The most salt in the average diet comes from bread, and breakfast cereals, Food makers put salt in just about everything
Even sweet things seem to also be full of salt, I don't know wither its used for its preservative propertied or taste,

I know lostonrye.... It is so frustrating. I always look at the sodium content and have to add it all up. I shouldnt go over 1500mg a day. It is hard, because like you say, it is in everything. I have to eat something, but canned foods are REALLY high in salt. I love canned baked beans and soups and all that stuff though... geesh. I dont eat breakfast cereal or sweets but everything else has salt.. I love it too! :)

All processed and restaurant foods have either an overload or salt or sugar. How else can they make something taste good !!! The one thing I have that has HFCS is ketchup. I just can't seem to do without it altho I have lessed the amount I use. I do use canned beans and veggies occasionally but I rinse them thoroughly before eating them. I stopped using most spices except Mrs. Dash which is salt free. Did you know lemon/pepper is mostly salt. DUH !

Lost - I think most websites have dates on them and if they are very old they're usually taken off the internet.

Hi ArlineH
Yes web sites are usually bang up to date , I was referring to some data based information, As my doc's diabetic advice, looked like it had been scanned into the computer from an old 95 advice book.

Also if you read stuff which has been scanned you often will get the date of the scan, but no reference to the article date.

Lost - your technical knowledge of the computer is way further than mine so I don't understand your post. However, I was diagnosed with diabetes in 1998 and the recommended diet at that time was the same as it is now so I can't understand how it could have been so completely different in 1995. The only thing that changed was the preferred A1C test was 7 and nonow its 6-6.5 and we now have the glycemic index/load which we never had before.

Every diabetic diet and magazine I have read are NOT diabetic friendly and I wonder where they are allowed to publish these recipes. People are generally savvy today and can't believe they would use these recipes.

They have canned soups with no salt Jo. They also have canned vegies with no salt.
But pretty much everything else is filled with garbage to preserve it so the answer is don't buy anything frozen or canned.
Plant a garden, grow your own vegies and catch fish for your dinner!!!
Simple right? (laughing)

I know that Fiber is good for me since it seems to mostly lower my blood sugar although I have heard its good for lower cholesterol although no one has said this is only affective for no high cholesterol relatives, but I am not so hep, happy, with low or no fiber 'starch' which I normally avoid if I am able to possible avoid it. I love red potatoes and purple onions, but the media says they are red, but not my eyes, but I love some of the pasta. I have heard some of the chips are not with salt, but I am on limited budget and I am very pleased when I see those with only 110mg per taste, aka, 'serving' and most of them or too many have 200-300mg of salt and I love chip dip and most have way too much salt, but some have as 'little' as 220mg. Its amazing you can see the exact same chips and they can range from 110mg to 250mg of salt for the same size per serving. I love fish, but they are not cheap, my favorite for pricing is Whiting Fish, since they are yummo and healthy, but not much Omega 3 from what I get on the internet. I season my fish with no salt seasonings and then I bake it which is called 'Poaching' although I thought that was when you got food off the land without paying for the privilege of doing so. I don't think of and call high fiber as Starch, to me, my view, low fiber products are what I count as that, the word Roughage is to let others know your OLD, and although likely the same as Fiber, babies need some fiber, but typically you need more roughage when your old and I need to think as young as I'm able to do so.