Wow.. that is pretty scary, lostonrye.. I dont think any overweight person really wants to be overweight, even if they are healthy. I dont think any overweight person can just accept that is the way they will always be and they shouldnt. Obesity is an epidemic now too, thus causing an epidemic in diabetes. I feel so bad for the young kids that have this.

I'm overweight by 20-30 pounds and hate looking in the mirror. Can you imagine what an obese person feels they they look in the mirror. I envy anyone who has a good shape because no matter how much money you spend on clothes, you rarely look good

I have been at both ends of the spectrum. I have been anorexic at 82 pounds and over 300 pounds on the other end. I KNOW what it is like to be obese and look at yourself in the mirror and hate what you see.. that is why I went anorexic.. twice. I am in the middle now, but still need to lose again, but hate looking at myself in the mirror. I am told that once an anorexic, always one and no matter what your weight, it is always too much in your mind. Not a fun place to be in, for sure.

I would love to be anorexic for just one day. I was born overweight !

No, Arline, you would not.. your hair falls out in clumps, you are very very pale. I am 5'10 and was 82 pounds. I had bones sticking out where I didnt even know I had bones. I could hardly walk because I was so weak. I had no menstral periods. My teeth started to decay... it really wasnt fun.. even for a day, but I still thought I had to lose just a little bit more.. just a little more...

Wow Goldie, your tall. I have seen that on talk shows it isn't pretty. It's good you got over it because many don't ever eat and die. I remember the twins that had that. Just thinking about it makes me think how awful it would be...Were you young when you were having that so bad?

Yes, Sunnie.. it was terrible! They say you never get over it and that is why it is so hard for me to diet because I just want to stop eating and they said if I did that again, I would destroy my internal organs even further than I already did. You dont eat and pretty soon you have no fat left, and your body starts eating your organs. It isnt a pretty sight, really. I had it twice, actually, Sunnie. I was 16 the first time, quite young and then again at age 31, which is the age it is going to appear again, if it does, according to the doctors. I was 92 pounds the second time.. much healthier.. not! LOL..I think what happened to me was I stopped eating to lose weight and then after a while, I physically couldnt eat.. couldnt swollow. I think it is all a mental thing, but it turns physical.. srange.. but very scarey Yes, I am tall :)

WELL, NOW I KNOW HOW YOU CAN EAT FROM A SMALL PLATE

LOL.. guess so <G>

One comment I would like to add to this discussion is that not all of us who can't lose weight are over eating either.
Just as not all skinny people are anorexic or bilemic.

Gee Goldie right in your teen years..That must have been awful for you and your parents.
I know if we don't eat our stomach shrinks and then we eat less and less.Soon you don't want to eat and later I guess you can't eat.
Thank goodness it is over with.
Hath, I have gained a few pounds this year and I think it is cause I lack the exercise I used to do. I know I don't eat differently and it is only not wal;king in the pool and swiming that I sort of let go..
I have never been over weuht and I find it very difficult to deal with the added pounds. Clothes too tight, bras too tight,I hate it and having a hard time getting it off now.

I was born big - was a big baby, big kid, big teen, big adult and now big senior.
Wish it were different but it isn't. I have tried most every diet that is even halfway healthy and end up putting it all and more back if I do lose any weight. And that we are told is worse than not losing it in the first place.
I just can't win for trying it seems. I exercise as much as I can but nothing works for me at this point.
It's 1am, I think I will sleep on it.

Hath, why not try Sugar Busters> It is the only diet my daughter lost weight on and kept it off because she continued to eat that way. You sorta have to look at it like diabetes, it s way of life not a diet.
I can see you like to eat and enjoy your foods but we can't do that, we just can't.You may never get tiny but you can drop weight. You just really have to look at what your putting in your mouth and be honest with yourself. Because most of us aren't, we cheat here and there, we say we don't but we do. You start writing down everything you put in your mouth and I mean everything!!!!! And at the end of a few days you will see what your doing without even realizing it. It helps really.

Are you on insulin Hath? I find since I have been on insulin I havent been able to lose any weight either. I know it is because I havent been able to excercise for the past while.. even though I still eat the same. You are right though, Hathani.. not all who eat very little are little and not all who eat alot are big. I really think exercise was my saving grace.. I loved exercise.. swimming, horseback riding and just walking.. but that was all before all my surgieries and diabetic prognosis.. as well as the neuropathy of the feet.

Whether we are thin, trying to gain or overweight and trying to lose, it just seems like it is a lifelong battle for so many of us...

Hath - you sound like you are beginning to get bitter. We know not all skinny people have a eating problem - most dont and we know not all heavy people overeat - a lot has to do with the thyroid, Also, as in my case, I didn't think I was overeating until I saw a thin girl I worked with had poatoi chips and cookies in her drawer. She would take one chip out and one cookie out and eat them - and didn't open her food drawer again till the next day. I would have eaten the whole box of cookies and whole bag of chips.