Codependency Support Group
Codependency is defined as someone who exhibits too much, and often inappropriate, caring for another person's struggles. A codependent person may try to change, or feel shame about their most private thoughts and feelings if they conflict with the other person's struggles. If you are on a journey towards self-love, this support group is for you. Join us and find others...
A Present Evil
Frustration, anger, jealousy, and past unidentifiable feelings haunt me yet again. Why do I allow these very uncomfortable feelings to bother who I am today. Can’t I just move on? It seems like I'm being held captive by these feelings. The sudden reemergence of an evil that I attribute to being one of the most prominent things that fueled my addiction is also having a direct effect on my sobriety which has triggered a reappearance of unwelcomed emotion. What do I do about it? Fight or flight? A human instinct that we turn to when faced with danger. I consider this present evil to be unbeatable and indestructible, just as it was before. I can now see just how detrimental it was to the well-being of my past, having such an effect on me that it was one of the main influencers of my poor decision making throughout my younger years. Which ultimately lead me to a very destructive way of living. I can now see, through my subconsciously self- destructive way of thinking, just how much I brought about and contributed to the reemergence of this present evil. I now realize that I was bringing about this “evil” through an attempt at reuniting my family while being completely aware of the consequences but reluctantly still proceeding.
Now that I was successful in doing so I deeply regret it. Everything that was still is. I think that even though I was going through the motions and doing all that I could to reunite this very sick group of people, while being totally aware of the outcome I was persistently, simultaneously and paradoxically doing so in an apprehensive and willful manner. But why? To describe this oxymoronic way of thinking in layman’s terms can be summed up by the word “twisted”. In hindsight I can now see just how much of an impact this way of thinking had on me and still does even to this day, physically, mentally, and spiritually. The potentiality of my still very prevalent self- destructive thinking and behaviors are clearly being driven by the mere influence of this family disease known as co-dependency.
My biological family is made up of 1) an alcoholic in denial, 2) a compulsive liar and manipulator, and 3) the chief manipulator and virus who created and still fuels the very sickness that has haunted and still haunts us today. And then there’s me the truth teller and scapegoat, experiencing the brunt of all this madness. Although I have been pre-orientated (by my past attempts at treatment) to the dynamic of the typical co-dependent family I can clearly see how the roles of each family member do change in such an elusive and subtle manor that it is very difficult to “nip it the bud” so to speak. It wasn’t long ago that my sister was very in-tune with, having much insight, to the dynamic of this very disturbing dysfunction. She was very persistent in her attempt to convince me of such, as I would consistently deny her claims. Showing my inability at the time to come to terms with this very great sickness prevailing within our family. She, being the “alcoholic in denial” now is in great support my brother the “compulsive liar/manipulator” who in the past has shown a great lack of respect for anyone of us by secretively attacking our pocketbooks to gain financial superiority in the family.
Despite my repeated attempts to warn my sister of this potential/present evil, her prevalent denial has blinded her to the point that it is contributing to her inability to see the danger that might be coming her way. Although this very recent re-appearance of my brother is fresh, and his intentions (though he claims) may be pure it is too soon for me to make any judgement call on the outcome of his presence within our family. I can only hope for the best. But based on his past behavior and his very abrupt and sudden attempts to gain status in the family. It certainly seems very convenient as his current life circumstances are in a very tumultuous state. To suddenly just reappear into our lives seems incredibly suspecious. So, I am naturally taking the necessary precautions that any semi-healthy person would take to avoid further disturbance in my life.
In conclusion to this great revelation, I am choosing to flea this time. As I am quite familiar with the outcome of fighting something this gigantic, evil and confusing. Some battles are not worth fighting as my younger years evidently do reflect. According to my very limited understanding of how to beat co-dependency it is best that I remove myself from this situation. I really do wish you all the best, but I can no longer subject myself to this very disturbing and prevalent sickness that is clearly contributing to the dynamic of our family.
Goodbye and God Bless!
JJ
ACOA/ACA is a good group to Belong
to. Its about the dysfunctional family.
Its not about any Blaming just
understanding why We are like we
are so we can heal, change and
grow.
We are Trying to reparent or retrain
Ourselves as adults and it can be
daunting alone. CODA is another
good group and many people do
go to Therapy also. I myself go to
alanon plus other groups.
We can only fix ourselves not any
One else. Yes codependency is a
Bear. It takes real hard and deep
work to heal it.
Many on here read Codependent
No more or The new codependency
By Melodie Beattie. Dr henry cloud
Has two good books boundaries
And safe people.
Welcome to our little group, HUGS
What you describe sounds like myself and my family of origin, and you call yours a "present evil" while I define it to be a continuous evil.
Some how we have no choice but to give up on our dysfunctional loved ones and it is like being on the Titanic life-raft and watching them going down with the ship.
The biggest problem is that we our self can not get fully healed without our family included, and so our own health and happiness are cut off along with our dysfunctional family, and we are offering them life while they ignorantly choose death and misery.
My own conclusion is that God has done this to us because I can see that it is happening to a lot of families in our society, and that God has a righteous reason for doing this, but I am uncertain if you would want to hear my religious views when it strikes so personal.
I say from your opening comment that you have defined the circumstance accurately and true.
Welcome here to this group.
I am a believer in God and Christ so your comments on spirituality are welcomed. As this family disease, just as any disease is spiritual at it's core, and the only way to heal them is through God. I agree with your statement about not being able to totally heal without your family, but at least we have forums/blogs like these to interact with like minded people. We can't pick our families but we can pick our friends. There's a lot to be said about that truth.
So thanks again for your insight and comments. I look forward to finding a spiritual solution to this spiritual disease.
Only God is superior to our parents and to our self and superior to all earthly powers, and human beings have got to look upward for help, and never will anyone accept a source that they see as downward or inferior.
The very disease of codependency is to be mean and hateful and unloving because we learn the codependency from cruel abuse.
To heal our self we must learn to be considerate and loving to other - as was not done to us.
I have a question if I may, but first let me give you rundown of my most recent "family" issues. As stated above my sister is blindly assisting my brother in all areas of his life,especially financially. Despite my repeated warnings that she is making a huge mistake she refuses to see my point of view. With shame I must admit that my current issue stems from jealousy. Jealous of the fact that when I was in the same position that my brother is currently in, which wasn't to long ago, she never would have done even 10% for me as she is doing for him. The difference between him and I is that I would very rarely ask for her help especially financially when I began in my recovery. Now my brother is just the opposite. He's very manipulative in his approach with her. Instead of outright asking for her assistance he has a way of putting on a front of being depressed all the time. So quite naturally she is going to ask "what's wrong?" That's when he expresses what is
bothering him, without having to directly ask her. It's usually for financial reasons so she, not wanting him to "suffer" will provide what ever he needs. As I understand the dynamics of the typical co-dependent family and the roles that we play, she is clearly playing the role of the hero or the caretaker, I'm not exactly sure yet.
Once I became aware of this I decided not to say anything right off the bat. I decided to wait so that I could closely observe how this would play out. I noticed almost immediately that they both began to push me away by not including me in family gatherings or get- togethers. Though I'm not completely certain I can safely speculate, based on past experience, that he (my brother) see's me as a threat and has some how in a non-verbal way conveyed to her that I need to be pushed out of the picture. In doing so he would be able to continue in his manipulation without my witnessing any of
it. So God knows what he's actually doing to make this happen but he's very skilled in his ability to do so. My presence would be detrimental to his attempt to further exploit my sister not only financially but to fuel her need to be needed to the point that she becomes fully devoted to him that she never even questions his true motives. I believe the reason that it is so difficult to convey these truths to her is because she has become so enamored in her role as the hero/caretaker that it has literally blinded her reasoning. Not to mention her on going bout with alcoholism, which does not help matters.
Getting to my question. Due to these revelations I made known to both of them that I was aware of what was taking place. While expressing in a not so healthy way that I did not appreciate them not including me. I also informed my sister that I was fully aware of their intent to push me away.
I used some choice words to convey my feelings to them which along with my tone did not offer a very receptive communication. So I blame me for that but that explains why I'm seeking other peoples advice on how to properly express myself. So my question is:
My brother is currently in a custody battle for his son. We as a family have been showing up to all of his court hearings to show support. His next hearing is tomorrow and I don't know if I should show up to support him.
Should I put all of this aside for his son's sake (keep in mind the son's mother is crazier than a whole psych ward put together) and show up to support him tomorrow? Or does it show that I am no longer at odds with my family's prevalent sickness and as a result weaken my case (so to speak) against them?
"Being present is a virtue."
It means that we (that I) must go there and I must be a participant even if I am just an onlooker because for me to express virtue then I must be present at any or all events whether they be happy or sad events.
An example is that last night a vegan group in my area said we were to meet at a restaurant at 5pm and so I did not want to go but I pushed myself based on that principle just because I am a member of that group and I must support the team effort - as it turned out I was the only person / the only one (1) who showed up and I was all alone at the restaurant, and yet it again taught me a valuable lesson that the other members did not have this virtue, and that I was more dedicated than the others, and I was happy with myself for being present.
As such I say you too must go to the Court to stand with your brother regardless of the consequence, but I do not like the idea that you go to support him, because you have no right to take sides against the child's mother even if she is a terrible person, so you need to be present for her too.
Your sister just has to play her own role - whatever that might be?
Mr KIA
To "detach" does not mean to leave the other person(s), it does not mean running away or hiding from the other person(s), does not mean shutting out the other person(s).
To have a healthy recovery then we must learn how to handle every situation and how to deal with every kind of person, and to stand our ground.
Mentally detach from the drama - not physically detach from the people.