almost forgot, I'm not on the hepc treatments and haven't been

I dont think anyone can aswer that ..I have hep c 3a and stage 4 cirrohsis I dont drink rarely ever did and started hep tx last week ...I have had hep for since the 70's I f you eat healthy avoid junk food and exercise you can help yourself ..There are people on here who can tell you which herbs and supplements can help you I know that Milk thistle helps the healthy Liver cells to stay healthy and getting rid of the hep asap will help but as to how long you live ...is so complicated it all depends on your body itself and so many other things ..attitude is a big one for me >>>>>I WANT to live and have lots to live for and ill be darned if I let this Dragon get the best of me!!! I dont think any one can give you an answer Sorry ..but all the best in seeking out tx :)

Nice to see you gain Kathy
HCV 1A, null responder in 2009, early stage 4, no alcohol. Great nutrition, exercise, milk thistle.
With hcv, the virus moves in spurts. The older we are, the more damage & collateral damage it can do. Even with hcv stage 4 can go on very many years & you are 3. Decompensated I've seen go 10 years while still drinking & popping pills. You have plenty of time to treat if you're waiting for better options.
Kathy, we take care of ourselves & there are ground breaking treatments opening up this year and more following. I need to treat soon, but will wait for both interferon free & riba free. I'll wait a year for that.
What age would you like to see? Go for it!

thank you for the replies, the liver doc wont treat me because of my size age and health so guess i'll be waiting with you triss, I'm encouraged to hear how you two are doing. thanks again

You can out live the Doctor probably I have Hep C/ Cirrhosis, Hep C since 1981 and Cirrhosis since 1996, 3 time treatment of interferon and pills, been told years ago that theres no hope Hep C genotype 1a Hep C stage 4, and I feel great pain here and there due to liver condition and we all know we cannot take pain med due to our condition but think positive as I do ignore the pain your going to live a long time be healthy think positive.

Remember, there's more than one doctor out there. One has expressed his/her opinion about not treating you because of various reasons but that is just what it is, an opinion of one. I would certainly ask for a referral from your family doctor or, check online, for specialists near you and call for a "second opinion". Nobody should have to go without proper medical treatment and care because of the reasons your doctor listed here.

Granted, your physical condition is not optimal but, it is not something that can't be changed or dealt with. Find a good gastrointerologist to work with you and who will outline a plan for you to work on your physical problems and then, that doctor will be totally qualified to refer you to a liver specialist if and when it becomes necessary.

I hate the fact that some doctors think they have the right to "play God" when they put their pants one one leg at a time like the rest of us. Only difference is, their pants are much more expensive than our's as a rule. But, truth is also, that they could not afford those more expensive things if it weren't for patient's who belive enough in them to seek their professional opinion and expertise of care. I have worked for about 8 different doctors in my lifetime and never would any one of them turn a patient away because of age or size........that is absurd. Just realize you are much better off without the "quality of care" this jerk would give you..........Thank God they are not all like that. Hugs and prayers.............CarolLentz

I am living with a friend who has cirrhosis and continues to drink daily. He drinks about a fifth of brandy every two days. He stays in the bed and refuses to do anything. He has basically stopped eating during the last 4-5 days. His eyes are yellow. He seems as though he losing weight. He does not like doctors. When he saw his doctor last (early last year), he was ordered to do blood and stool tests, which he will not do. It seems as though he doesn't want to get better. Recently he told me that his poop was green and runny. His attitude is really BAD!!! I don't know what to do for him. I believe that he has the bands on his portal veins. I want to know what to expect as far as health. Will he die soon, and if so what will kill him. His father died before he was 50 of the same thing. My friend has been drinking for over 50 years and does not want to stop. What will ultimately be his demise? I have sympathy for him, but his attitude is so bad that it is hard to do even that. What to do. Does anyone have any advise?

I quit drinking about five or six years ago when I found out I had hep c and I take vitamins and herbs when I can afford it and try to eat right, cpinel there are some folks who would rather die than quit drinking, so sorry you have to watch that happen to your friend, and thank you all for your replies, actualy when I look at all that's going on in the world right now I think people are going to blow it to bits before any of us die lol just kidding I do get my blood checked every three or four months, helps me know where I'm at and what to work on.






























very small I think that's what made the doc back off of me doing tx

kathyrsh.........Unfortunately, I think that these are the end times according to the Bible as I interpret it as well as all of the different ministers, bishops and preachers who now speak openly about the signs of the times. I have studied end time prophecy for a very long time. I know you were speaking "tongue in cheek" and there is probably more truth to what you say than we realize. But, the Bible teaches us that no man knows the day and time that the end will come and that we must "abide".........meaning, carry on day to day without fear. I just didn't ever think I would see my world in the kind of mess it is in now. Thank God that we have his grace for "hope" in all things. Don't want to preach but, I just had to chime in on your comment..........Hugs and prayers............CarolLentz (and, I wish not to offend anyone who may not follow those same doctrine but, all they have to do is take a look around at the world today as opposed to 50 years ago........so different.)

cpinell, sorry you have to experience what's you're going through.

No good news to tell you, your friend is killing himself. Really no advice to help out other than prepare yourself for the worst.

Talk with other people, friends, relatives, even this forum. Get the help you need to get through this ordeal.

This sounds awful, but no other way to put it. He will probably die from internal bleeding or just complete body shutdown as his organs begin to fail.

Even if he could be saved by a transplant, it takes six months of sobriety to even be considered. Even then, it could be a long wait for a healthy liver to become available.

cpinellge......It is so sad to watch someone give up but it does happen. They would hate to quit drinking even if it becomes life or death situation. Nobody can stop another person from drinking but the drinker himself. All you can do is "be there for him" (if you can take the pain of such hopelessness)........

My uncle was the same way and he died within 6 months of diagnosis of cirrhosis......he just couldn't stop binge drinking. He had a horrible death (that 's what I mean about being there for him)........Nobody could blame you if you gave him an ultimatum and if he doesn't quit drinking and at least try to get help with is addiction and his disease, leave him to his own misery.

I hate giving advice like this but, I am convinced that being true to oneself and facing that truth is the best way to deal with that truth. If he gets one hint that he is "better" he will just go back to drinking. so it will be a lifetime of torture for you to watch.

Hope is always the best approach and prayer and faith will work wonders but, when one is determined to give up, that's all we can do.........continue to hope, pray and rely on our faith...........My heart hurts for you.........Please stay in touch........Hugs and prayers..........CarolLentz

thank your carol for your imput, just wanted to say I agree with you,

I think sometimes people make a decision even at an unconscious level. To stop drinking smoking etc take up exercise and eat a better diet,
or some just say well I am not going to be able to stop so its no use trying or its too late now.
But no matter how old you are it is never too late to tun things around
as an Ex alcoholic and heavy smoker I know once you make this decision
it is possible just get past the 1st hurdle and you could end up feeling so much better.
if drink is the cause but in any case keeping to a good lifestyle can only be beneficial. Prognosis is not something Doctors talk about with this disease. But you owe it to yourself to do the best ..

kathy, I also have 1a, stage 3 bridging, and I on my second liver. So I may not live as long as you will theoretically, but I'm already 69. So every day is gravy to me.