Chronic Pain Support Group
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This a repost of an essay I wrote some time back. Older members here have rad this. I repost for the new members in response to some recent messages and posts on the topic.
Understand this is an essay, and not the gospel on this subject.
Living With Spouses and Significant Others
People who live in chronic pain, have to eat crap from most of the people in our lives. Friends, co-workers- and our significant others. No one not even our doctors, and their medical assistants, and staff respect chronic pain patients as being really sick. Why do we have to be treated as second class patients by society at large. Is it because we were taught from a young age "to walk it off" or is it because we are thought of as drug seekers. Maybe they believe us to be slackers.
Our significant others, whether we are married or living with someone, go into our relationships know it is "for better or worse" and in "sickness and health". When I got married, I thought like most that the worse wasn't going to happen. What could that mean, anyway? A six month layoff, money troubles, right? Now the health part. Most people get married young and their health is good. So the health part, means when we get old. Diabetes, heart problems, cancer, arthritis. Things that happen with age. Maybe a health "scare" when younger, but something that won't last a few months at best. People understand that. They will sympathize and take care, since it can happen to them.
Well, here we are. Something went wrong, and we got sick with something earlier in life, and something went really wrong. Chronic pain has set in. Well sorry. In life sometimes, things happen to people. Us. We ended up developing a chronic pain issue, for whatever the root cause. There are as many reasons, as there are members in the support groups. Each of us, has a different reason why it happened to us. Our loved ones, can't handle it. Why do they run, and why if they stay, don't they treat us as though we are chronically ill? Lets go back to, the take to aspirin and call me in the morning, or the walk it off mentality.
Spouse one, leaves his wife. She has cancer. She can't walk anymore. People will look at that person as a loser, a bad person and someone with out a soul, or remorse. They will be treated as the person in the relationship that was wrong. That spouse will probably always feel bad about leaving. Same spouse but the illness is chronic pain. No one will say boo to them. They won't be treated as though they were the wronged one. "Well, I tried, but all my spouse did was take pills all day and lay on the couch". "Pain, so what. They are the ones who are taking advantage in the relationship".
Why do they leave? Is it vanity? Not wanting to spend their lives with someone with a cane. Maybe it is they want to do "normal things" Every reason is different. The point of all of this today, is simple. We did nothing wrong. We got sick, and now live with pain. We should not be treated as second class patients and people with second class illnesses, by doctors. Our spouses, and significant others, are weak and vain for leaving us, and/or treating us badly. Period.
Why does no one remember that, behind the chronic pain, is a 'legitimate' health problem? Failed backs, Lupus, Heart problems, Fibromyalgia, M.S.. The full spectrum of diseases and illness have taken our otherwise "normal" lives. It has left us with pain.
Last weekend while we were away, my cousin kept asking me, if I wanted a beer. Boy, did I want one. But I had to keep reminding him politely that I am on medicine. How I described my meds, to him and how I describe it to everyone who asks. Did you ever go to the dentist and get the pain medicine with a 3 on them? Yes, well I take twenty of those per day. That shuts people up, they then understand I live with something they cannot comprehend. I digress as usual.
The issue with most pain patients under forty is, why do they stay with spouses, and significant others who are/or in, less than ideal situations.? I believe that most of us who suffer with chronic pain are afraid of being by ourselves. That we will stay in "bad" relationships because it is better than none at all. Some of those who suffer with pain, suffer mental abuse in our relationships, because if we need to go to the hospital, or just had a surgery, someone will be home for us. Most in bad relationships, say who would want me, now? So I will stay.
Having to stay, because the spouse has health insurance for us. We couldn't survive on social security. Some stay because it is their lives that they built with someone, and they won't give it up. Questions like who will shop for me, where will I be stuck living, OMG will I be so broke, I will have to chose between food and medicine. (I have seen this one, and had to stay u all night chatting) because the person was so upset they wanted to kill themselves. Which is an easy thing for a chronic pain person to do.
Our minds, and our ability to survive are still intact. It can be done. We can survive, and survive better, without someone who treats us badly. We can be happy, we can manage to eat and take all our meds. One thing those who suffer forget, is stress is the worst thing for us. No bad relationship, no stress, equals no pain. I did it for awhile a few years ago. Those who suffer can also.
Please, love yourself more, than the life you are living. You can be a stronger person than you think you are. Just because you have been led to believe you are weak, doesn't make it so.
More later my friends, have a great, and pain free day.
Doug/Ouch
Understand this is an essay, and not the gospel on this subject.
Living With Spouses and Significant Others
People who live in chronic pain, have to eat crap from most of the people in our lives. Friends, co-workers- and our significant others. No one not even our doctors, and their medical assistants, and staff respect chronic pain patients as being really sick. Why do we have to be treated as second class patients by society at large. Is it because we were taught from a young age "to walk it off" or is it because we are thought of as drug seekers. Maybe they believe us to be slackers.
Our significant others, whether we are married or living with someone, go into our relationships know it is "for better or worse" and in "sickness and health". When I got married, I thought like most that the worse wasn't going to happen. What could that mean, anyway? A six month layoff, money troubles, right? Now the health part. Most people get married young and their health is good. So the health part, means when we get old. Diabetes, heart problems, cancer, arthritis. Things that happen with age. Maybe a health "scare" when younger, but something that won't last a few months at best. People understand that. They will sympathize and take care, since it can happen to them.
Well, here we are. Something went wrong, and we got sick with something earlier in life, and something went really wrong. Chronic pain has set in. Well sorry. In life sometimes, things happen to people. Us. We ended up developing a chronic pain issue, for whatever the root cause. There are as many reasons, as there are members in the support groups. Each of us, has a different reason why it happened to us. Our loved ones, can't handle it. Why do they run, and why if they stay, don't they treat us as though we are chronically ill? Lets go back to, the take to aspirin and call me in the morning, or the walk it off mentality.
Spouse one, leaves his wife. She has cancer. She can't walk anymore. People will look at that person as a loser, a bad person and someone with out a soul, or remorse. They will be treated as the person in the relationship that was wrong. That spouse will probably always feel bad about leaving. Same spouse but the illness is chronic pain. No one will say boo to them. They won't be treated as though they were the wronged one. "Well, I tried, but all my spouse did was take pills all day and lay on the couch". "Pain, so what. They are the ones who are taking advantage in the relationship".
Why do they leave? Is it vanity? Not wanting to spend their lives with someone with a cane. Maybe it is they want to do "normal things" Every reason is different. The point of all of this today, is simple. We did nothing wrong. We got sick, and now live with pain. We should not be treated as second class patients and people with second class illnesses, by doctors. Our spouses, and significant others, are weak and vain for leaving us, and/or treating us badly. Period.
Why does no one remember that, behind the chronic pain, is a 'legitimate' health problem? Failed backs, Lupus, Heart problems, Fibromyalgia, M.S.. The full spectrum of diseases and illness have taken our otherwise "normal" lives. It has left us with pain.
Last weekend while we were away, my cousin kept asking me, if I wanted a beer. Boy, did I want one. But I had to keep reminding him politely that I am on medicine. How I described my meds, to him and how I describe it to everyone who asks. Did you ever go to the dentist and get the pain medicine with a 3 on them? Yes, well I take twenty of those per day. That shuts people up, they then understand I live with something they cannot comprehend. I digress as usual.
The issue with most pain patients under forty is, why do they stay with spouses, and significant others who are/or in, less than ideal situations.? I believe that most of us who suffer with chronic pain are afraid of being by ourselves. That we will stay in "bad" relationships because it is better than none at all. Some of those who suffer with pain, suffer mental abuse in our relationships, because if we need to go to the hospital, or just had a surgery, someone will be home for us. Most in bad relationships, say who would want me, now? So I will stay.
Having to stay, because the spouse has health insurance for us. We couldn't survive on social security. Some stay because it is their lives that they built with someone, and they won't give it up. Questions like who will shop for me, where will I be stuck living, OMG will I be so broke, I will have to chose between food and medicine. (I have seen this one, and had to stay u all night chatting) because the person was so upset they wanted to kill themselves. Which is an easy thing for a chronic pain person to do.
Our minds, and our ability to survive are still intact. It can be done. We can survive, and survive better, without someone who treats us badly. We can be happy, we can manage to eat and take all our meds. One thing those who suffer forget, is stress is the worst thing for us. No bad relationship, no stress, equals no pain. I did it for awhile a few years ago. Those who suffer can also.
Please, love yourself more, than the life you are living. You can be a stronger person than you think you are. Just because you have been led to believe you are weak, doesn't make it so.
More later my friends, have a great, and pain free day.
Doug/Ouch
I also feel on the flip side of things that if i did have a partner,he would have to be patient and very understanding(would that happen i ask myself...lol)So being single i don't feel guilty if i have to spend days in bed because i can't move.I don't feel guilty if i cant do the housework.
My true friends(very few)do understand what is going on in my life and how chronic pain affects me on a day to day basis.
I just think i will stay single unless prince charming comes along and Knocks on my door!!!!!!
But honestly the longer I live it seems clearer to me that whatever isn't a lesson in my life is usually a challenge.
Perhaps it is our difference in life strategies that has kept us together for 35 yrs.
Has my husband wanted to leave when I am in the middle of a pain flare that beats the crap out of me and our family life....I would say YES. Maybe we are one of those statistics that took our marriage vows (in Reno...LOL) very seriously.
I didn't get really ill until I was in my 40's so perhaps we were both able to face it with maturity...and yes even respect..I don't know....I don't have the answers but one thing I do know for sure.....
We can still smile at things and people in our lives. And Yes, we laugh...on pain flare days the laughs are harder to come by but even some of the television commrcials have brought humor (the one for Ciallis
and the thought of complaining about a 4 hour erection makes me laugh right now).
I have learned much about myself and I really do try "not to sweat the small stuff".
I have a full time job just taking care of ME. My spouse is always there to lend whatever support needed as necessary. Sometimes I have to ask because he is not a mind reader....I have found that I would really try to keep my suffering to myself...I get tired of living with "IT" and don't like to inflict my boloney on anybody else....Could I have made this journey by myself....no doubt.
It sure is nice to know that I have loved ones and friends that are there if and when I need them.
Many acquaintances don't know about my health issues and I like to keep it that way. It is true that people can and do treat you differently if they know there is something wrong with you.
And so my friends here at DS, I thank you for the friendships that we have....and yes even the compassion that we share.
I have really learned compassion as a result of my health issues. I am trying to give myself the same compassion that I so freely give to every body else.
HAPPY PAIN FREE NEW YEAR
DONNA
For me it is all about the knowledge that I need no one else to validate me as a person. That I do not need Russ, I want him.
Everyone needs 'alone' time specially those that are caregivers or live with a person with chronic anything. So there are evenings I go fishig with him, then there are evenings that we use our code...and need time alone. He goes fishing and I curl up.
Being togethr 24/7 is the hardest job you can have. Still the 'raises' and the
benifits' are worth the long hours.
Russ is my Rock!
I do definitely agree that no one should stay in an abusive relationship - and was in no way trying to take away from that part of your essay.
It is like you said we didn`t ask for this and when we got married we thought nothing about being in thhis kind of a relationship with pain being the main part of our lives.Don`t get me wrong we still have some good day`s,but they don`t come around as much as we would like.I know that it is hard for me as the pain sufferer to adjust my life to not do some of the things I used to love doing like just taking a walk together can be painful and I haveto stop very frequently to rest because of the SM and all of my other spinal problems.
I have to have someone go with me to all of my doctors appointments,and that is usually my wife and some times my brother because I can`t remember most of what has been said or done.
Thank you for posting this article it does help to put in perspective what we are going through and how people do look at us.
Your friend,
Monte
Should I put my boyfriend through a life like this? We are young (27 & 31) and not married. I know he wants to marry me, but what if my pain and health only get worse? I would hate to see what I am like 20 years from now. I just don't know if I want to ruin his life. This has really got me thinking...
I am almost staggered at the thought of a young person considering making such a life altering decision and You really don't know what life has in store for you.
Please keep in mind that maybe,just maybe your life and health issues might improve.
You need to consider living your life (no matter what the health issues)and having someone to share your life with can be such an enjoyable experience.
Be good to yourself...enjoy the love that you share!!!!
And...if and when he treats you poorly...then dump him.
Please don't deny yourself the joys of living with the anticipation of the worst of life.
donna
I wrote a long response to you yesterday, but I was somehow signed out and it didn't post. I will reply to your message that you sent me later. But I just want to thank you so much for your response. I meant a lot to me.
Love,
Jessica