Christian Support Group Community Group
This is a place for everyone who loves Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior (or those who are seeking Him), to come and discuss important issues in their lives and find support from fellow believers in regards to their faith and life. We uphold the Bible and living a Christ-like life, not as a way to heaven, but as a reflection of our love for God.
The wisdom of the fathers
GOD MAINTAINS ABSOLUTE SURRENDER
God not only claims it, and works it, and accepts it when I bring it, but God maintains it.
God Maintains Your Surrender
That is the great difficulty with many. People say: “I have often been stirred at a meeting, or at a convention, and I have consecrated myself to God, but it has passed away. I know it may last for a week or for a month, but away it fades, and after a time it is all gone.”
But listen! It is because you do not believe what I am now going to tell you and remind you of. When God has begun the work of absolute surrender in you, and when God has accepted your surrender, then God holds Himself bound to care for it and to keep it. Will you believe that?
In this matter of surrender there are two: God and I – I a worm, God the everlasting and omnipotent Jehovah. Worm, will you be afraid to trust yourself to this mighty God now? God is willing. Do you not believe that He can keep you continually, day by day, and moment by moment?
Moment by moment I’m kept in His love;
Moment by moment I’ve life from above.
If God allows the sun to shine upon you moment by moment, without intermission, will not God let His life shine upon you every moment? And why have you not experienced it? Because you have not trusted God for it, and you do not surrender yourself absolutely to God in that trust.
A life of absolute surrender has its difficulties. I do not deny that. Yes, it has something far more than difficulties: it is a life that with men is absolutely impossible. But by the grace of God, by the power of God, by the power of the Holy Spirit dwelling in us, it is a life to which we are destined, and a life that is possible for us, praise God! Let us believe that God will maintain it.
(from "Absolute Surrender" by Andrew Murray)
The worst thing was a young man telling me he wonders how people got saved before the internet? Say what!!!?? How utterly bizarre! It is the Holy Spirit that draws us, and teaches us and brings us to salvation!
We do need to surrender to God. But how often is this preached in modern Christianity? We need to give everything to God.
I'm not so sure I agree with Murray" "I am a worm" theology though. I won't go as far as to say "I am perfect through Christ" which while correct on one level, means you can ignore sin and the need for repentance. But I do not think as believers, we should be putting ourselves down. Because if Jesus chose us before the foundation of the world, then we are worth something, right? At least to Jesus!