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Interesting topic, I guess I need clarification on what is meant by "perfect" used in the context here. Does "perfection" mean without sin or sinless?
In the post, Matthew 5:48 was implied, "Be ye perfect, even as your Father, which is in heaven is perfect." These are the teachings and commands of Christ to his disciples, specifically, away from the multitudes. The word "perfect" used in this verse is "telios"(5406 in Strongs Concordance) it means 'complete in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character.' I think, as Christians, we all strive to be complete in that way and it is a process of learning and growing as children of God and relying on the Holy Spirit and discipline ourselves to study and understand His Word.
The same Greek word "telios" is used for 'perfect' in Hebrews 7:19--"For the law made nothing perfect, but bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God."
In 1 John 2:5, "But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him." Perfected here is 5048 in Strongs which means "to complete, (literally) accomplish, consummate, consecrate, finish." This verse is conditional: "but whoso keepeth his word."
When we keep his word the love of God is perfected in us.
It is interesting to note that Satan was created and "perfect in his ways" (8549 Strongs- meaning "entire, (literally, figuratively, or morally) integrity, truth, without blemish, complete, full)
Ezekial 28.15 "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou was created, till iniquity (5765- evil, perverseness) was found (4672- come forth, appear, or exist) in thee." He was created perfect in his "ways" (1869- a road, course of life or mode of action) until evil came forth or appeared in him-- so was he really perfect?
Thanks for sharing this topic- very thought provoking!
To teach that such an expectation is a dangerous error is to teach unbelief... .
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"Victory over the World" by Charles Finney)