When did your husband send the text?
I understand wanting to see your gs. Gc are wonderful! All we can do is pray. I have a feeling they'll reach out eventually even for the reason they don't have anyone else to help it sounds like

I believe your son will reach out in time also. It seems that he wants it to be on his terms. They will eventually realize that they need your help. Your gs will not forget you. I hope it is sooner than later. God bless you and DH.

Oh edr, I get it. Yesterday was such a bad day because I started thinking about the 3 grandchildren we're denied. They've been told we did something bad we need to be forgiven for! It's hard to even imagine rebuilding a relationship with them after them hearing that we did something bad to their Dad. I pray your son and DIL come to their senses soon and you're able to resume contact. It's a pain deep down in the soul.

I am the last one to give advice here since I have two grandchildren I am denied. In our case, we were told in no certain terms NO CONTACT, and I foolishly sent a Christmas card thinking surely that wouldn't make them mad. And yet their hearts are so hardened that even a simple card set of such a fury I have never seen and never wish to see again. I will never contact them again, unless they contact me first. I have had to let it/them go, and yes it is very hard. And yes, the son and dil are doing it to hurt us, and it does hurt very much. I would say let it go, but I know each case is different. And sadly, I must say I am scared of my DIL. I really do not ever want to be around her ever again. The things she has said and done scare me, and just show how evil and twisted her mind really is. But your DIL may not be as crazy as mine. I pray not. I pray for all of our EC no matter what the circumstances may be. God knows the situations in all of our stories, and I know he is in control and can fix even the saddest ones.

My dh texed him tuesday, my dil is silent she says nothing and never has, i think she does the " poor pitiful pearl" case and my son seems so gullable, she never says thanks,always excuses,they are strange i have never seen anything like it. My little gs doesnt even get to go outside maybe someof the things i have expressed my concern over is sillyto some but the way they do its just not normal and maybe i said to much but i have had to see this go on for 4 yrs andi need them to know we are watching how my gs is treated.never outside,no dentist,clothes have bad odor of dog,dog hair on clothes,they lie about dr results i can go on and on. My crying comes in waves right now,dh said he isnt going to contactt him again,we will wait thats all we can do. And come here to you all to hear my hurt

http://aga-fl.org/

I hesitate a little to send this link because as far as I know they are not Christian based, although I know there are some wonderful Christians who do get support from them as well as support them.

One of their consultants is Joshua Coleman, of which I am not a fan because he puts the onus on the parents to 'fix' something that is not within their power to 'fix.'

I have emailed the woman in charge at AGA. They are eager to help grandparents us whatever means necessary to gain access to the grandchildren. In my opinion though, it can be (isn't always), but can be a slipperly slope.

I understand where you are at edr and my heart goes out to you.

Not sure if you are referring to grandparents rights or not. I believe grandparents rights are different according to state laws. I know where I live, grandparents only have rights to visitation if the gc have previously lived with the grandparents or if grandparents have provided a long period of care for ex. in case of illness. Outside of that,,,, we have been legally kicked to the curb.

We are Christian i was raised Southern Baptist,my dh Catholic, i love all kindsof quotes,poems,songs,support sites very easy to get along with{at least i thought}.My son/dil paid for a lawyer for her mother/father to try to get visitation rights for there gc of di sister,and somehow they took care of the child and they were denied visitation i dont know the whole story, but i wonder how they feel they are doing the same.

faith304, you are absolutely right. I believe most states to not have 'grandparent rights.' However this site, AGA I believe do encourage grandparents to move forward legally or otherwise to gain access to their grandchildren.

Personally, I don't believe the courts should be involved in giving grandparents 'legal' rights per se. It is tough enough, IMO, when parents divorce and have to fight for custody ... the child is in the middle and it is often a tug of war, but something that cannot always be avoided. They are the parents and are responsible for their children, so they do what they must do legally.

In the area of grandparents fighting for legal rights, I personally don't believe this whole layer of tug and pull needs to be opened up and fought out in the courts, but that's just my own thoughts about it.

I don't know all about AGA, but it is a resource that some find comfort in.

EDR: You might like AGA, or not .. I know you can email them, and they will give you direct feedback via email and they will also add you to their mailing list and they send out newsletters and updates. For those who want to pursue their GC at all costs, they probably are the ones who have all the statistics about grandparent rights in your state, and what if anything you can do. They also offer real in person support groups throughout the states.

difficulttime2, I agree with you. I know what my state's laws are only because I thought it might shake them up if I inquired. After praying, I felt to step back and let go. Not saying my gc are not worth it, contrary. They mean the world to me . The story about the two women claiming to be the mother of a baby came to mind. The woman that ordered the baby be given to the other was given the child because she had the best interest of the child in mind. Unselfish, unconditional love!
I do not want my gc tossed about like so many children today due to divorces, etc. To me that is not healthy in anyway. I will trust in God that he will work it out and in time the truth will be known. I have faith that during this time of absence, my gc will not forget me because they only have happy memories of what we shared together.

faith304: I agree, and I also will wait for God to work things out, this side of heaven, or not ... He will make things right.
I believe it is our job to do what is possible ... and then to leave the impossible to God.

My Faith is in the Lord, let your request be known. and trust that he will fill in the details. Short, simple, DONE.

I write a letter and email it to my gs i know son/dil get it and most likly delete it before they read it,i know they dont read it to my gs and its ok there choice,i copy it for my record and if time goes by year by year with out seeing gs and God i pray it doesnt ,the day may come gs may come to see me and wonder why i havnt ask for him i have the letter to show it may sound strange to some but i need to get through this the best way i can,it makes me feel content right now and going to let God handle it.

i did the same thing.... Even keeping a daily journal and every day I write something about gc so they know I think of them daily. a good case depends on the evidence at hand...

glad to hear others think this way also