es has left for the military and is going overseas from what I've heard. He told me this is the last time you'll ever see me when I saw him at graduation. That was sure hard for a mother to hear. Thank you all and prayers.

God is able, soverysad. He works in mysterious ways. Hang on to Jesus.

Soverysad.....he may come back a changed man, this may be good for him. The military is good for these guys, makes them grow up and face the reality of life. Years ago when my husband was in the service he told me there were many Christian guys spreading the gospel.....God works in many ways. (hugs to you)

Our ES also estranged due to evil DIL. He is not happy but pretends to others he is and doubt he would leave her with 3 kids and would be mega child support along with admitting we were right when we warned him about her. I have never in my whole life seen a more sneaky, manipulative person. She parades around like a believer but is a "wolf in sheep's clothing" ~~~~> Matthew 7:15 -- Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Bella, I would put my SIL up to compete for the world's most sneaky, manipulative, and might I add, narcissistic person I have ever known. The first day I met him I knew he had evil intentions. He has brainwashed my ED and (for now) ruined her life. But I have to remember she has allowed it all, so she is just as responsible for the mess she is in.

Yes, God works in many ways. Wish we could choose what trials we get, but then they wouldn't really be trials, would they? My husband and I agree that we are different people now- than before estrangement began. Different- as in better people- we are less judgmental, kinder and more compassionate because we've seen the other side of the "perfect" family we thought we had.

Praise be to God who knows all things, and knows what's best for each of us.

Important point Sylvia, they are not the same person that we once knew. I never would have believed my ED would or could be so mean and heartless. I, like you, do not wish to have a relationship with her in this state. I loved the girl I knew. I think fondly on some of those memories. I try not to ruminate on what she has become and the why, its too painful.

It is very sad at holidays. We have learned to plan ahead and sometimes we stay out of public so we don't have to feel the hurt when we see families together.

Our ES just recently contacted us and we did have him here for July 4....It was so good to connect back up with him, he has changed his ways and is no longer hostile at us and angry...his marriage ended and so ended the anger.

There is hope, I just keep praying! God hears our prayers, I know this, it's His timing that I have difficulty with...but I am learning patience...boy is it difficult!!!

Hugs to all!

Grandmama2 I can relate with everything you said. But I know God answers prayer. Someday she will come back to God and in doing so will want me in her life again. But many in my life feel my sil would have to be out of the picture. I pray he will come back to God too. But part of me doubts he ever really had a relationship with God to begin with. By there fruits you will know them. He had none