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Romans 5:17 GNT
It is true that through the sin of one man death began to rule because of that one man. But how much greater is the result of what was done by the one man, Jesus Christ! All who receive God's abundant grace and are freely put right with him will rule in life through Christ.
18 So then, as the one sin condemned all people, in the same way the one righteous act sets all people free and gives them life. 19 And just as all people were made sinners as the result of the disobedience of one man, in the same way they will all be put right with God as the result of the obedience of the one man.
20 Law was introduced in order to increase wrongdoing; but where sin increased, God's grace increased much more. 21 So then, just as sin ruled by means of death, so also God's grace rules by means of righteousness, leading us to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
6 What shall we say, then? Should we continue to live in sin so that God's grace will increase? 2 Certainly not! We have died to sin—how then can we go on living in it? 3 For surely you know that when we were baptized into union with Christ Jesus, we were baptized into union with his death. 4 By our baptism, then, we were buried with him and shared his death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from death by the glorious power of the Father, so also we might live a new life.
5 For since we have become one with him in dying as he did, in the same way we shall be one with him by being raised to life as he was. 6 And we know that our old being has been put to death with Christ on his cross, in order that the power of the sinful self might be destroyed, so that we should no longer be the slaves of sin. 7 For when we die, we are set free from the power of sin. 8 Since we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 For we know that Christ has been raised from death and will never die again—death will no longer rule over him. 10 And so, because he died, sin has no power over him; and now he lives his life in fellowship with God. 11 In the same way you are to think of yourselves as dead, so far as sin is concerned, but living in fellowship with God through Christ Jesus.
12 Sin must no longer rule in your mortal bodies, so that you obey the desires of your natural self. 13 Nor must you surrender any part of yourselves to sin to be used for wicked purposes. Instead, give yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life, and surrender your whole being to him to be used for righteous purposes. 14 Sin must not be your master; for you do not live under law but under God's grace.
It is true that through the sin of one man death began to rule because of that one man. But how much greater is the result of what was done by the one man, Jesus Christ! All who receive God's abundant grace and are freely put right with him will rule in life through Christ.
18 So then, as the one sin condemned all people, in the same way the one righteous act sets all people free and gives them life. 19 And just as all people were made sinners as the result of the disobedience of one man, in the same way they will all be put right with God as the result of the obedience of the one man.
20 Law was introduced in order to increase wrongdoing; but where sin increased, God's grace increased much more. 21 So then, just as sin ruled by means of death, so also God's grace rules by means of righteousness, leading us to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
6 What shall we say, then? Should we continue to live in sin so that God's grace will increase? 2 Certainly not! We have died to sin—how then can we go on living in it? 3 For surely you know that when we were baptized into union with Christ Jesus, we were baptized into union with his death. 4 By our baptism, then, we were buried with him and shared his death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from death by the glorious power of the Father, so also we might live a new life.
5 For since we have become one with him in dying as he did, in the same way we shall be one with him by being raised to life as he was. 6 And we know that our old being has been put to death with Christ on his cross, in order that the power of the sinful self might be destroyed, so that we should no longer be the slaves of sin. 7 For when we die, we are set free from the power of sin. 8 Since we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 For we know that Christ has been raised from death and will never die again—death will no longer rule over him. 10 And so, because he died, sin has no power over him; and now he lives his life in fellowship with God. 11 In the same way you are to think of yourselves as dead, so far as sin is concerned, but living in fellowship with God through Christ Jesus.
12 Sin must no longer rule in your mortal bodies, so that you obey the desires of your natural self. 13 Nor must you surrender any part of yourselves to sin to be used for wicked purposes. Instead, give yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life, and surrender your whole being to him to be used for righteous purposes. 14 Sin must not be your master; for you do not live under law but under God's grace.
Then I turned back to God again
Now I see that its only through surrendering my life to Jesus that sin does not run my life. I am not perfect and do sin sometimes. I don't do it on purpose and I don't believe that anyone will be sinless until after we pass over. I don't allow the devil to condemn me if I do sin because I am free because of the work of Jesus on the Cross.
When we find Jesus, it isn't just a free pass to Heaven. To truly follow Him, we must direct our freewill to avoid sin and obey Him. We sign up for His way, all the way- to follow Jesus up that narrow path. When we stumble, His mercy helps up regain our footing. He is the way.
And I think Romans 8:1 sums up what the follow up post says:
"Therefore there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus."
I would challenge. This Arminian theology of free will, though. It is the Holy Spirit who leads ad guides us into obedience. There is no way off my own violation that I could ever obey God, without the Holy Spirit to lead and guide.
I think that is what Kathilee was saying in her post?
Great OP!
Maybe we ought to look at ourselves and be certain we really ARE in Christ Jesus before we assume there will be no comdemnation. That is MY main point.
Kathilee is capable of expounding on what SHE was saying.
We learn that there is joy in pleasing god that our lives become full and meaningful, that we draw close to our Father and want to stay in close communioon with him not out of fear but love desiring to please Him desiring to love Him morefully. I ramble but how much can one say and it be too much. We should not walk fearing god but desiriing to please our Beloved?
Please , pray that I stop .Thank You
Grace frees us from the consequences of our sin for which I am so thankful.
I am putting ths before you
There is a difference between "falling to sin" and deliberatly setting forth to commit a sin. It is one thing to trip and fall but another entirely to set ones mind to deliberatly commit evil.
The Bible does deal with this, but my question is how does one who is living undergrace commit evil deliberatly? I sin comit wrongs and am tore up iinside over even the thought that I may have hurt some one. And I have to make it right if I can, at least confess it. How does one set out to do what is wrong and still be a follower of Christ?