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crazymoon5150
It has been 10 months for me since I had found out about my H cheating . I have beat myself up over and over , we decided to stay together and work it out , been married for 15 years , Im not here to bust anyones chops or pass judgement , maybe some piece of mind , We are all people here with our own hurt feelings on both sides , for so long my H treated me more like a roomate if not worse , I would say for about a year , more like a doormat ,then in Feb 08 I found out ,I threw him out and thought that's what he wanted was to be with her , then a few weeks later he did a 180 he turned back into the man I married, the man I remembered , that still baffles me ,he went from telling me he had been thinking about leaving for quite some time and cheating , and treated me horribly, to mr wonderful ,my head was still spinning , once he moved out I thought that is what he wanted? then he clawed like hell to get back in the marriage .I know he is hurt and embarrassed by what he has done , once I said I said it was over, I was filing for divorce ,he flipped ,I dont hold it over him I dont throw it in his face ,we are really doing good here ,there are a few bumps along the way, did you ever have warning bells going off when things turned to sex? Why all the lying and sneaking around, I know alot of stepping out side a relationship is not all about sex but more of something missing , why didn't you just tell your spouse or other that you were not happy? these are the things I never got an answer to, I mean either way telling your spouse/partner you were not happy would hurt , but not as much as an affair ,why not pick the lesser of two evils? I am just looking for some insight , why was it easier for my H to jump into bed with a complete stranger then to tell me he had not been happy for some time ?
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My ex H's personality and demenor changed so much that I had to confront him. It was obvious that something was wrong for him to act the way he did. He was miserable around me but mr happy go lucky around our friends. It just didnt make sense.
Speaking for myself (and I can't speak for anyone else), I entered into my (emotional) affair without consciously considering each step deeper into the pit. When I first got in touch with OW (she was a lost love from years ago), I wasn't expecting anything more than a quick hello-how-are-you-we-should-stay-in-touch. When we started reconnecting, I figured that it was just because we were old friends who had a lot to say to each other. When we started talking about intimate things, I thought that we were just taking the chance to say stuff that we were too afraid to say back then. When I told her I still loved her, I rationalized it by thinking to myself that it was the honest truth and that hiding from my feelings was wrong. When it started getting seriously inappropriate, I thought of it as something we just needed to get out of our system. When I started making plans to go see her, I thought that it was just something I had to do, to see her again one more time and bring things "full circle". When I actually started putting away money to make that trip... that's when I considered I might be crossing a line that shouldn't be crossed. Unfortunately, thought I came to my senses enough to stop digging in any deeper, I didn't climb back out either, and that was where my wife found me out.
There was no point in the process where I thought to myself, "Hm, this feeling of happiness and fulfillment I'm getting is something I should be getting from my marriage. I should tell my wife I'm not happy and we should work on it together." The reason I never thought that is because suddenly, I WAS feeling happy and fulfilled. It was easy to believe that the problem was solved. I found many creative ways to rationalize and conclude that I wasn't really doing anything wrong.
One of the more powerful rationalizations was that it seemed to me that what I was getting from OW was something my wife was unwilling to provide, and that in a way I was doing my wife a favor by not bothering her for affection and attention. I think that a lot of cheaters will justify their actions that way, and this is why they don't make the choice to work on their marriage instead of cheat. To put it as basically as possible, my mindset at the time was, "I'm not happy in my marriage, but my wife seems perfectly fine. As far as she's concerned, there's nothing to fix. So why should I put effort into that when she doesn't have a problem? I've found happiness over here with OW, and my wife doesn't have to know all the details. Besides, if she finds out and makes me stop, she'll be even less inclined to offer me any affection and we'll all be worse off. So I'm going to keep doing what works for me. Obviously we can't keep this up forever, but we'll worry about that later."
And then, of course, "later" never comes.
I didn't actually think those exact words at any given time, but it describes the mindset I was in, and I think it's pretty much universal (I want to make it clear that I have since come to realize how selfish and wrong I was, and I am ashamed and disgusted with myself). The point is that if I had considered the choice BEFORE the affair started, then I would certainly have made an effort to fix my marriage, as I think just about anyone would. The problem is that the choice usually doesn't present itself until after one is in too deep to think straight.
Intimacy, both emotional and physical. We didn't really share our feelings anymore, it seemed. I was depressed most of the time, and it was like I didn't want to bother her with it. I think she felt like she didn't want to add to my burdens. Sex was dull and infrequent, and I was convinced that she didn't actually feel any desire for me, but was simply going through the motions. I still feel that's true, actually, but it's something I'm still afraid to ask her directly.
We didn't have plans for the future; we were living day by day. It felt like we had nothing new to look forward to and nothing more to say to each other about anything. I didn't know how to make her happy; not just about the big things in life, but about little things like what to get her for Christmas or where to take her out to dinner.
Most of all, I felt like she didn't want or need anything from me. It seemed to me that I was almost a drag on her life, that anything I might do for her, she could do better on her own. One of the things that made it easy for me to fall into an emotional affair was that I really didn't feel like I was taking anything away from my wife; she didn't seem to want intimacy, affection, attention, or even my company. I had almost argued myself into believing that she would be indifferent about the idea of me having an affair.
I don't think she ever realized that I was as down on our marriage as I was. That's more my fault than hers, because I should have been communicating that to her.
A lot of the above things are still problems, but we are now addressing them, so I think we can get them solved.
If I'm going to be totally honest, though, there is one more thing that I have to admit. What I felt with OW, both twenty years ago and more recently, was more intense and powerful than anything I've felt with my wife, ever. I wish it weren't true, but there will always be a part of me that longs for that feeling. That's always going to be missing from my marriage, and I have to live with that. What really tears me apart, though, is that my wife knows about that now too. She knows that there's something she'll never be able to give me, but there's someone else who could. It's the worst thing I've ever done to her, and there's nothing I can do about it.
My H also convinced himself after he was caught up in the affair that it was alright to supplement his wife with another woman to ensure that his needs were being met. He also believed at one point that I would be alright with this even though I had told him many times I would not tolerate an affair. He also felt that what I didn't know wouldn't hurt me and eventually it would all just sort itself out and we would all be happy. It never dawned on him that the better thing to do would be to come to me to discuss how I could fulfill his needs rather than getting them met elsewhere and that maybe I would want to do those things with and for him. He also did not consider that some of my needs were not being met and that once faced with his supplementation of me I would want someone to meet my needs, including fidelity, which meant he would be history.
You should discuss the sexual aspect of your relationship with your wife. Chances are she may feel the same way and you will be doing each other a favor by discussing how you can make things better. I know there were a couple of things we improved in this area, and believe me, I am thankful.
I am curious why you married your wife if you did not feel the powerful and intense feelings you had had for the OW? I had been with other men before my H and a couple were long term relationships. The feelings for each new love exceeding the feelings I had for prior loves. If I had not felt stronger, more intense and more powerful feelings for my H than I had had for prior lovers, I would not have married him. I would have held out for that, knowing that type of love existed. Otherwise I would have felt that I was settling and probably would have still thought of those prior lovers with whom I had shared stronger feelings. I would not have been able to stay with my H if he had told me his feelings for the OW had been stronger than what he feels for me. I would have set him loose.
I don't think that what I felt for OM was stronger than what I have felt for my husband. It did seem intense, but I believe that is about it not being available and trying to deny it for so long. I do think that OM and I had more just pure fun together because we liked to do similar things and we both like to debate, so we had many hours of that. So if anything, I found more companionship with OM than with H. My H is trying very hard to be that companion for me which I appreciate very much. But, he also has many qualities that OM was lacking and I respect very much.
MXeno, no matter what you find in your marriage, it will never be perfect and something will be missing.