Champions Of Christ Church Community Group
This is a church, but online! Most people view a church as the building you go to for worship. NOT TRUE. In the beginning, it was a community that shared things. This is a church. A web-based community who can share with others. Feel free to ask questions. There are no "dumb" questions. How will you know unless you ask. I only ask that you have JOY. (Respect of Jesus,...
It's probably a stretch, but supposed you are committing a sin (lying, for example.) when you are shot. The bullet kills you instantly. Are you bound for heaven or hell?
I will give you a story about some people I knew that lost their son to suicide. He was wheelchair bound and in constant pain. He shot himself while his parents were at church on a Sunday evening. I don't think it is up to us to speculate on his fate.
Here is what I believe that God said in reference to suicide:
Matthew 12:31
[ The Unpardonable Sin ] “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
I believe that God will forgive ANYTHING we do, even suicide. But, one thing will not be forgiven. Blasphemy against God, the Holy Spirit, will not be forgiven.
You have surely heard, "once saved, always saved." I believe here is a scripture that says that::
Ephesians 1:13
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
You are SEALED With the Holy Spirit OF PROMISE.
MaryT
Hebrews 13
but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.
I've taken many bible classes and studies, and this subject came up. My professor didn't believe that those kinds of people go to hell, because in God's eyes we're like sick. Our minds won't allow us to think clearly like a healthy person's would. Another example: If I kept forgetting who you guys were and forgetting to come on here, then all of a sudden decide "Oh, I think I may kill myself today sounds good." You see, my mind wasn't clear to begin with since I was forgetting who you guys were and to come on here. So in God's eyes I have a mental illness. Now, if I killed myself on purpose just to see what hell was like, l would say let God be the judge on that! Have I confused everybody yet?!
I have read the BIBLE numerous times and don't recall suicide ever being mentioned but:
"Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you." 1 Corinthians 3:16
How can we destroy HIS temp1e?
In addition:YOU ARE JESUS' MARVELOUS CREATION. PSALM 139
I'm sure you are loved by people here on earth who would be very hurt .
Lets press on and fight the good fight for we were meant to be courageous !
Also, you have to remind yourself that if God would have approved of suicide don't you think that he would have made it possible to display it in all of the several thousand pages of the Bible? So , also with the premise you made that "no where does God tell us we cannot take our own lives" also he does not tell us that we can take our lives...You will only find that he provides food, shelter, and knowledge for us to sustain our lives....
You do not have to accept your life as it dictates right now NA, YOU have the knowledge and wisdom to change whatever sin that inhabits your soul and conscious. When God sees that you are doing all you can to discontinue your sin(s) that haunt you he will deliver you from those sins...or sin.
I can't tell you how to live or not live your life NA . We are each responsible for each of our lives and sins...I cannot solve or bring complete resolution to your sorrow, NA Only you can do that. God will not allow me to cross over into your soul as an attempt to resolve your problems...But HE Did give me resolution to my own sins and problems..
I will continue to pray for you in your time of need....But you must do as God asks as well.
In God's love
Cajunboy