Breakups & Divorce Support Group
Just broke up with someone or in the midst of a difficult divorce? Breaking up is difficult no matter what the circumstances are. They say that time heals all wounds, but sometimes a listening ear or a hug can work wonders for the heart. Whether you need a place to vent, someone to hold you to No Contact, or need advice about what to do, we're here to help.
Having said all that, I can see by the things you are saying that you see the problem was you and you've accepted responsibility and even got some counseling. You say you are willing to accept responsibility for your PORTION of the problems. Dude, you have to know that flying off the handle in anger with the woman you profess to love dwarfs every other possible problem the two of you could have been having.
Putting her needs first is a great way to show that you've changed. I say if you really love her don't give up. Make sure to treat her right and that she knows you still want to reconcile without pressuring. If she sees with her own eyes over a substantial period of time that you have changed, she may find she wants to take a chance. She married you because she loved you. If you haven't killed it off, there may still be a bit to build off of. Good luck!
PS: If you've ever hit her or harmed her or the kids in any way then f**k off and leave her alone. Sorry, I hate men who engage in domestic violence worse than boils on my bottom.
You have an excellent attitude and I have a good gut feeling about your chances of working things out!
As for selling the house and living separately as a ways to meet her needs, you will have to clarify why you are doing as she could easily assume that you are on the same page as her and want to separate as well.
I believe giving her the space and time for deep reflection is a good thing but selling the house and getting own separate place sound too permanent and makes things that much more easier for separation. (its like you are setting up the table and food and all she has to do is start eating).
But having said that, forcing against one’s will isn’t a relationship and you both should carefully consider and communicate openly and ultimately, both needs to put the effort into the relationship for it to work in long run.
You should talk about her needs/wants in a relationship and come into some sort of agreement (if there are different to yours) where both of you can be content with. At the end, she needs to be in the same page as you.
I plan to keep working on things, and to keep showing her that I care without pressuring her. I want her to want to be with me because she falls back in love with me. It feels like a long shot right now, but at least I know I will have plenty of opportunity to be around her with our 2 kids. The one reason I have hope over the long term is that we still have great conversations and laugh together, and we are really working well on coordinating free time for each other. I am hopeful that time and the changes I have made and will continue to make will open up her heart to me. But you're right that the only way we get back together is if we both want that. My goal is to just give myself every chance to allow her to feel that way by being the man I really am and that she deserves.
Thanks for all the replies. This has been a very therapeutic way to deal with this stuff for me. My family only look at this through the eyes of wanting me to be happy, so in a strange way the advice of absolute strangers offers a different and maybe more honest perspective.
I'm really trying to trust that there's a reason and a plan for all of this. I do see that it'll force me to learn to love myself and to overcome pain and fear. My heart is broken right now. I feel guilt, despair, and a little bit like a fool. I want nothing more than us to work to regain our relationship. I hope someday she realized she wants that too, or that I realize I no longer do.
She's going, she's leaving, she's gone. you're gone.
She wouldn't be doing you a favour by coming back. You'd immediately lose all impetus to become a better person. going back to someone you've grown out of is never a good idea.
See it from her side. She's sick of your temper, she's come to the conclusion that it isn't going to change and that she won't tolerate it. She's let go of you. She's undone her commitment to you. It's you or her she has realised. And it's going to be her. With the cancer, she probably has to escape you to have any chance of healing.
You take her final consolidation of position, her realisation, her growth moment created from years of experience, and freak out. Her newfound stability destroys your stability. You are only stable when she is in a certain space and she has moved from that space.
So now you race to change things back to how they were. Under pressure. With a gun at your head, you 'realise' a few things about yourself that are new ideas.
So it wasn't you, really, that changed. It is only the gun that makes your temper change.
If she comes back, the gun disappears.
And then what do you think happens.