Breakups & Divorce Support Group
Just broke up with someone or in the midst of a difficult divorce? Breaking up is difficult no matter what the circumstances are. They say that time heals all wounds, but sometimes a listening ear or a hug can work wonders for the heart. Whether you need a place to vent, someone to hold you to No Contact, or need advice about what to do, we're here to help.
Broken trust doesn't even have a chance of being repaired till everything is out in the open. It may be that you will never be able to trust him again if he keeps dodging the issue. For me, I lost trust, then respect, then love (there was no cheating, "just" chronic lying and a total inability to communicate). Those three things are interdependent and you just can't thrive without them. And you're right, it's not your job to figure out what's driving him. Your job is to figure out what drives you, what your boundaries are, and what you absolutely cannot tolerate. Answers to those questions will determine if separating is the right thing for you.
I am glad you were able to get him to go to counseling. I have tried for three years and all I get it..."I need to fix myself before working on us..." you can lead a horse to water but....
I did meet with a lawyer today to just make sure I am doing the right things...not to file or anything because I want this to work out... it sucks but basically if I want it to work out the ball is in her court. I only recently have come to the realization that if she wants a divorce....that's it...no more hope...currently I have a small small thread left... 3 years of egg shells makes anyone super weak in the knees and exhausted to keep pushing forward.
all the best to you!!!
I do realize the therapist is trying to not scare him off, but I don't know what the fine line is between making him comfortable to express things that make him feel guilt/shame and actual entitlement/manipulation his part, and bullying me (which he has tended do in the past--not in any physical way, but in a sort of determined, repeated, and verbally aggressive way that has in the past made me want to drop things). We'll see if he actually even would want to continue going to this original therapist who lets us set the pace.
Lightmyway: I worry that that is precisely the narrative he is creating--that he cheated because of our marriage dynamic. Which displaces the blame. Not to say there aren't things I could have done differently, and I'm much less likely to take it personally now when he is prickly whereas before I would retreat pretty quickly and give up. But there were years when I tried to reach out to him and it made him annoyed because I was disrupting his work (he has a toxic relationship to work and he isn't getting the promotions/recognition he'd like). I'm a pretty even tempered person, stay in good shape, have a great job, am a pretty good mom, have a fulfilling social life, etc. I think he felt threatened by this, and also for years tended to blame me for everything that ever goes wrong because his manner of mild depression means lashing out and seeing everyone as an assault on him or an annoyance. I think there is still a chance he blames me entirely for his affair which no one should accept.
It is very possible that he's a commitment-phobe who was never all-in for marriage in the first place. My observations of this type of man is that he will drag out any kind of divorce for years, while he weighs his options and decides what he wants. He will have his cake and eat it too while everyone fusses over keeping him happy. Of course I have no idea whether this is the case with your husband, but consider this as a worst-case scenario, and set a time limit for yourself on how long you will wait to see real change from him.
Also, get a free consultation with a lawyer, now.