Breakups & Divorce Support Group
Just broke up with someone or in the midst of a difficult divorce? Breaking up is difficult no matter what the circumstances are. They say that time heals all wounds, but sometimes a listening ear or a hug can work wonders for the heart. Whether you need a place to vent, someone to hold you to No Contact, or need advice about what to do, we're here to help.
From a personal stand point, if i say you have no contact with my elderly parents and you know they are under stress--you should obey that.
You obey that, realizing that contacting they are elderly, they are under stress and medically you contacting them could cause them harm, hospitalization or worse. They are bystanders and innocents in your divorce.
Contacting them truly is only easing your guilt. I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm trying to explain. You're not thinking of their welfare and their medical welfare.
I'm also trying to let you know that a world of hurt would await you if it was me and I told you to stay away from my parents and you violated that. You would see police at your door and I would have charges against you for haraasemnt of them, I'd also put a restraining on you too.
Imagine if they had a stroke or heart attack or worse during contact with you. You'd be in deep then.
Do you understand that you do not get to do what you want to do, no matter how nice you feel your motives are? Your thoughts must be for the medical welfare of the elderly parents of you ex and you don't get to contact them to ease your guilt or your spiritual woes. You go to a counselor or your church for that. But leave the elderly parents out of it, just like you leave the kids out of it.
You said she is lying to them, and trying to keep you from seeing them.
I would want to explain the things you have stated in your post to them. I may not let my ex know when I was going to visit them, but I would certainly go, and I would not let her dictate who I could see and not see, even if they are her parents.
Good luck!!
Sending support and hugs
My ex-father-in-law was my father-figure. We did things just the two of us. We helped each other on projects on our houses and such. We sat up late the two of us, talking, when we went camping. We sat at his table talking many-a-time, alone. I love him dearly.
And for that reason I will take your advice.
I would say, if you do contact them then don't even go down the road of saying you are sorry it didn't work out, etc. Simply tell them that you have enjoyed having them in your life all these years and that your focus is doing what is best for your daughter, and you wish them all the best. If you say more than that, then you will be feeding into your STBX's lies because it will look like you are trying to shift the blame. The lies will come into the light on their own, they always do. And you will have taken the high road.
Good luck with whatever decision you make.
I want to apologize by basically saying I did everything I could do to make their daughter and their grandchildren happy and have great lives. But for whatever reason my stbx wasn't happy, and left.
My ex-father-in-law used to tell her she was looking a gift horse in the mouth when she complained about me. My families needs often came before mine (yes I am a recovering co-dependent).
They will back their daughter over me every time, I know that is just the way it is. And I trust that karma will prevail and the lies will be revealed in time. Maybe I am just anxious.
Yes, I am still recycling through the grief process. I was good for a good long time. Now 6-7 months later I am obsessed? with the divorce again, maybe because the trial is coming up.
What I did early on was write my in laws a letter. I thanked them for being kind to me and for all the help they gave me during the marriage. I didn't mention the divorce, as I know they were in a difficult position.
I think a letter would be appropriate. Don't say bad things about the daughter; just reaffirm that when things settled down you would like to stay in touch with them. I also see no reason for you to apologize (unless you did something that you haven't told us here).
Good luck.
I tried as hard as any co-dependent does, but I don't think she ever really was attracted to me, question if she ever truly loved me, and she did lots of inappropriate things. Her only real hobby was drinking (and possibly drugs) and going to the bars with her single and adulterous friends. She did not ever sleep with me unless drunk, and rebuked my each and every other time. When I would remove my clothes she got in the habit of saying or doing extremely cruel things like asking for no reason if I was going to "be able to keep it up" or suddenly going limp on purpose during when we were "in the action". Things were okay the first few years but grew steadily worse. When she went off anxiety-depression meds she completely fell apart and acted towards me with complete hatred for a month or so until she left. I posted my story at length in June of 2012 and most people told me to "run, don't walk, away" from this which I have. I still pine for her sometimes, despite her abuse of me, and I am not sure why (I believe some of it is natural to having been together 7+ years). But my OP question has to do with my love for her parents and closure with them.
In response to your latest comment, let me say a few words about CLOSURE. Closure is something that you come to ALL BY YOURSELF; no one can "give" it to you, nor can you "give" it to anyone else. It's a process, just like all the other facets of divorce. So if this burning desire to get or stay in touch with the in-laws is out of some need for "closure" -- forget it. You are barking up the wrong tree. Look for a sense of closure WITHIN. That's where you will find it.
This is the Voice of Experience speaking! xoxox
Your attorney is the one that handles legal matters and his/her imput would be very important for you.
Anyway, some of this comes up because a friend of mine who is soon to be divorced, when he picked up his kids for the holidays gave his ex-wife a present to give his ex-father-in-law. I don't know him that well or his dynamic with his father-in-law, but it made me think about me and my relationship with my own.