no explanation, no nothing? i think before u boot somebody u should give them a fair trial by their peers. its the human way. just offing them is the barbarian way

i was accused of getting her kicked off. i had nothing to do with it. i liked talking to her. she would tell me her honest opinion. i like that. i often disagreed with her. it was my goal to change her heart and how she felt about things. i wanted to see her happy. now i dont get the chance. wtf r we here for if not to help each other? u help yourself by getting out of yourself and helping others. its the only way to b happy(for me). do we just boot our children out if we disagree with them? i know many do. and look at the world. i think this world needs more love and less "get the F out!"

this isn't likely to be helpful as this always opens up old wounds.

But...

this is a site owned by sharecare, not by the members - it's free for peer support for anyone as long as you follow basic rules. That's similar to many other places, virtual and real.

You don't have a trial by peers in a bar or pub - the owners ask you to calm down and if you don't you get barred.

Bear in mind if someone is breaking the rules then that means that others are either getting abused or the board is presenting itself in a way that would be offputting to new members joining for support. So trust me after seeing this stuff here for 6 years, 3 or so as a CL I do now understand what the effect one disruptive member can have and how many people they can effect.

If you don't see every single post on DS, and in some cases all the hugs and PMs no one here can really know the extent of abuse made by a member.

I don't know who told you you were involved in getting her kicked off. If you think it was me I was referring to someone else. Who is now also banned.

This is not a community like war and terrorism - it's a support board for people with Bipolart disorder.

You are entitled to your opinion, but that is simply not the way things work here.

On reflection, I think perhaps you meant linnea? I was thinking of someone else.

If so forget "I don't know who told you you were involved in getting her kicked off. If you think it was me I was referring to someone else. Who is now also banned. "

And replace with - She was a returnee banned member. I don't know what she originally did or what user name she had but obviously DS had her on a list. I also recieved complaints regarding her in the very short time she was here.

Her first post here was about the banning of a popular member and ran something like "I'm glad he was banned - I'm sure he deserved it". Ironic, no?

The rest of what I said stands.

acuriousfish. ty for your clarification. #4 reply is correct. i wondered if it was because of a previous reincarnation. i guess i didnt understand the difference between this group and "war and terrorism". i see your point. it just seems a shame that it seems the people that need the most help r the ones to b abandoned. like the Nature show where the one otter pup cant keep up and is left to die. or the bird one where the smallest bird doesnt get enough food, dies and becomes lunch for the others

@ DrCopperhead - if you have no idea why she got banned why do you characterise her as "an otter pup left behind to die?" She did seem to be unpleasant and agressive while she was here.

Apart from what I saw, what she originally got banned for I had complaints from bipolar meembers who come here for support.

Please don't try and romantacise her banning.

War & Terrorism is supposed to be a support group but isn't. It's merely a debating pit.

Bipolar will not go the same way.



@Rich, you have a point.

We had 2 or was it 3 new people causing trouble - the racist, the one that latched onto you and another one. Those in turn spawned two further bannings of regular members because they rose to the bait.

Another member was basically given crap advice by someone who should know better and probably got some pleasure over watching them take the fall. They also managed to get another member suspended. Luckily they are now off the board but they took some good people with them.

I feel no regret about the nuisance members, I do care about the regulars we lost.

finally

"Nature show where the one otter pup cant keep up and is left to die. or the bird one where the smallest bird doesnt get enough food, dies and becomes lunch for the others"

We are ALL at one time or another that otter pup. We are ALL that bird.

That's why we come to the Bipolar support board. Those that go out of their way to attack others are warned, then suspended, then banned. They get plenty of warning.

So your friend that got banned presumably had plenty of opportunities but set out to simply spread misery.

Remember your friend was jubilant over the banning of a member here who was having a bad time. Who was the sick pup then?

well i think ive apologized enough. the otter pup was a metaphor for what u do with the discarded members. i care about the people that u find to b a nuisance. i find them as worthy of help (in any small way i can) as anyone. my question is y they r that way? can i get them to consider another path? can my age and experience save them some heartache? just the way i am and perhaps i should not come here anymore. idk. im gonna say what i want and i refuse to b intimidated by anyone

That's not really an apology is it.

I didn't say they were a nuisance to me. It's not my call, it's DS's decision.

But these people have been deemed to be a nuisance by other members and in cases triggering, for example the racist.

We do our best to protect our own. People are given chances by both membbers and DS. Some people persist. Some we regret their banning, others not. It's up to the individual.

I don't see where you have been intimidated either, you've made your opinion abundantly clear in posts and PMs. I've made mine clear from the perspective of someone who is bipolar, who has been a member here for years and has been a CL for years.

I'm not going to comment further. I've explained.

i considered her as sick as anyone. she upset the patients? this a hospital? she didnt have insurance? God gave us free will. western civilization gave us free speech. i believe its possible to ignore people. but thats me. u have your own rules. and thats fine too

Final word.

They are not my rules. They are DS's. They own the site. They make the rules.

You can't ignore a drunk, or a person on a mission to upset everyone....

They just follow you room to room, fighting with themselves - making everyone miserable, then we continue to discuss

and they never try - because there mission was not support.... I'm glad we have rules! Unacceptable behavior - should be unacceptable on DS as well as real life..

We are not doing favors loving someone to death...

I think the question has been answered