*hug* Maybe talk to your hubby that it upsets you to see him like this because it doesn't seem like something that a kid would normally do or say and ask his opinion?

Your sons behavior doesn't seem out of line to me. Kids at that age are still trying to figure the world out. It might be a good idea if you talk to a child psychologist to get an idea of normality for age 4, but I don't think it's going to do you any good to obsess over it.

He said that its just him being a kid. I think its easier to hear that from someone that isn't Talon( the hubby) , Tommymott. Just worried from reading that one tread and his behavior, I seriously don't want him to be like me, even if I am Bp II, I still would not want him to have to deal with this. I don't hate the Bp but I wouldn't know from exp. but I am betting life is easier without it.

On top of what Tommy said, have you tried talking to your son about feelings (O god...I feel like barney...) & how sometimes we have mad & sad feelings & that it's better to talk about it? My daughter is only but for some reason she also talks about death sometimes...like she'll pretend her babydoll is dead or that it got shot (I kinda blame that one on her daddy playing MW3 with her in the room...) & like when the mail main pulls up she'll ask if he's gonna kill us (this I'm afraid has alot to do with my paranoia reguarding someone trying to get in our house or hurt us)...but he may just be being a kid

I can really relate to your "worry" about your son. I have four sons, two of which are diagnosed with BP. They are all adults now between the ages of 18 and 27 and I still have concerns some days. What I will say is that all the worry in the world will NOT change the outcome of the situation. It will not prevent your son from having BP or suffering.

If anything, our worry just facilitates their worry and concern and it does not give them the tools they need to manage their disorder. As a mother it is so normal for you to feel such concern and love but we also have the advantage of helping our children through our own experiences with this disorder.

Work with your son now on how to manage his emotions, behaviors, reactons etc. You can do this calmly and with great success. You have so much more power than you know and you can turn your worry into support and may find that he does no have BP at all....xo

Careful of the self-fulfilling prophecy... If you tell somebody they are sick for long enough, they will get sick eventually.

our kids are easy to obsess about. I think it might even be instinct to do so. An instinct that easily boils over to destructive extremes.

kids watch their parents and copy their reactions.

If they didn't the human race would not exist. Or primates or many of the mammals.

Many animals don't come into the world fully hard wired with instinct. They learn when young and they generally copy their parents.

And kids copy their friends , what they see on TV and computer games.

I really wouldn't worry.

Gwendolly said it all,

Good points all. There are some really good recommendations here...good reminders for me too...As far as your son, I wouldn't get overly concerned. My mother once told me that she thought my 4 yr old (he was 3 at the time) has bp because he threw a tantrum. I asked my pdoc and tdoc. They simply said "he's 3". And I swear one or both rolled their eyes, can't remember exactly.

At this time there really is no definitive way to diagnose a child with bp, but that doesn't stop them from doing it.

Does your son spend lots of time playing? I'm not talking about XBOX, but real play involving lots of physical activity e.g. running, hide&go seek, having adventures outside. For some reason physical activity has been nearly erased and then people get confused as to why their children are having behavior problems, so the ADHD label or another is rapidly applied and medication is used. I do understand people's desire to straighten things out with no idea how to do so. I have no idea what his activities involve, but LOADS of physical activity is a now rarely used therapy, but it does really work well, much better than drug therapy for little kids with developing brains.

F12, please don't think that I have passed some sort of judgement, I'm just pointing out a powerful way to deal with his problems now and for the next decade or more if it is put in place and made to happen. It can't hurt to give it a try at least. Drugs are much easier and therefore much more attractive to adults tired from their jobs, but this is your son whom you love dearly.