Atrial Fibrillation (AFib) Support Group
Atrial fibrillation (AF or afib) is an abnormal heart rhythm (cardiac arrhythmia) which involves the two small, upper heart chambers (the atria). Heart beats in a normal heart begin after electricity generated in the atria by the sinoatrial node spread through the heart and cause contraction of the heart muscle and pumping of blood.
If he can do the ablation over the phone and in just a half hour, I would definitely go for it. I presume he will do it on Skype... :-)
Seriously, all your conclusions are correct. Not only can they also ablate aflutter, it is usually much easier of a procedure. Good luck with your decision. petey
Trust yourself, your judgment and your doctors and their experience because this could very well be a cure for you.
carp diem,
atp
I believe you are making the correct decision...I came to the same conclusion when doing the research...drugs have a bad effect on the body, and will probably fail at some point...afib only gets worse, ablation has higher success rate for paroxysmal. ATP is correct, just believe that you made the correct decision, and that should relieve a lot of the pre-ablation jitters. In a few months, this will all be behind you, and hopefully you will be afib free for life! We are all rooting for you!
Bill
Concerning your confusion...I read this recently on a-fib.com:
When EPs do a catheter ablation, the first stage of success is to convert A-Fib into A-Flutter, the second stage is to convert A-Flutter into tachycardia. When the tachycardia is stopped and cant be re-induced, the ablation is considered finished. You can consider A-Flutter as a more organized form of A-Fib.
This was explained to me in a similar way by my EP.
Good luck and take care!
-Mark
Hegel - I am in the same boat as you. I just scheduled my ablation today with Dr. Natale. My ablation will be done on February 2nd.
Like you, I have PAF and up until this year, I was only having an episode once per year. Now I have them every other week. I'm in one right now as I type!! It's funny how things work. I scheduled my ablation today and was second guessing myself all day long because I was convinced I wasn't going to have another episode for a long time. Five hours later I went into afib. This episode has cemented my decision. I'm now very happy and confident with my decision.
I wouldn't look back. You made the right decision, but like you, I suspect we'll both be nervous, anxious, and wondering if an ablation is the best option after all. The only thing we can do is look forward and pray that our ablations cure us!
Travis
P.S. I'm documenting my "ablation journey" on my blog. I'll be posting some videos and blog posts shortly. My plan is to document the entire process - from the initial consult to the hours, days, weeks, and months following the procedure. This way anyone who is contemplating an ablation will know exactly what to expect! If you're interested in following along, my blog can be found at: www.livingwithatrialfibrillation.com
Next Hegel is 60, as I am. Has an average of 2 episodes per year, as I did. I refused not only ablation, but the 200mg of Flecainide daily. So yeah I guess thats me being cynical to not donate $90-250K to the EPs country club membership and Yacht club.
On a serious note, wheres the harm in seeking a less intrusive and more natural way before burning the house down?
I have felt 'not ready' for an ablation for the past 3+yrs of PAF. However, this past Spring, I was treated for symptoms related to allergies that got extremely bad. I was put on Prednisone and a strong multi antibiotic much like Zpac and I went into a month of uncontrollable worse than usual symptoms Afib. I was ready for ablation in week 2. Circumstances with Dr. moving out of town, and his vacation postponed my set up apt. for 2.5 mos. By that time, I had gone back to my ole afib....1 or 2x month..moderate symptoms...and I was no longer 'ready' for ablation.
So now, 6 mos later, I have not had an episode for 13 weeks. I also tripped and fell with injuries and much to my surprise I remained NSR.
You sound like you are Ready~ and I wish success for you!!!!!
thanks for the info on flutter. this just reaffirms my decision.
tvanslooten, having an episode, or in your case increasing frequency of episodes, really focuses the mind and cements the decision making I think. As you say, what are the other options?
My episodes are infrequent, so far, but I often end up in the er being cardioverted. I'm active, liking to backpack and back country ski--I don't want to go into afib out in the middle of the wilderness, where drugs may fail to slow my heart or convert me. My last episode(s) were brought on by pneumonia. Atenolol didn't work; I was cardioverted in the er, and then went right back in 11 hours later coughing put me back into afib. Luckily I self converted, but geeze..
Anyway, thank you all for the perspective and encouraging words.
Yogacat, it is a personal decision. I'm focusing on the percentages and hoping for the best. I don't see a huge downside, in terms of an ablation making things worse, statistically, or damaging the heart. I'll see I guess!
Just sit back and know you've made the right decision and you picked the BEST of the world. You couldn't be in much safer and experienced hands than Dr Natale and it's the best decision you could make as far as I'm concerned. I sit here typing this 18 months out from my journey with this insidious beast that will get. 99% of us in the end no matter what natural remedies we try.
As far as burning the HOUSE down, I thought the same thing but after suffering a stroke my mind quickly changed. Abaltion IS NOT burning the house down! As far as those outragoues charges the EP and hospitals get about 30-40% of those charges after all is said and done. Who cares anyway as long as yo get your life back!
Natale is far from needing the money and does it because he is obessed whith wanting to cure patients and to teach his technique to as many as possible! Remember each ablation subjects him to more radiation he does not need after 9,000! He just spent 4 hours just trying to punch thru a young man's surgically repaired septum in order to perform an ablation. Everytime he was able to finally punched thru the material collapsed that they used to repair his septum and he couldn't thread the catheters thru. This is a simple punch that takes minutes to get thru. Finally after 4 hours of trying he was able to burn thru with a special needle and do a 45 min ablation. Tell me what other EP in the world would even risk trying to to do something like this? This tells you lots about the mans character and intergrity!
McHale
Just an FYI-good news
They just approved another new contact force touch catheter.The FDA approved this past week St Jude's Medical Tacticath Contact Force catheter which now joins the already approved earlier this year Biosense Webster Thermocool Smart-Touch contact force catheter and now providing two such better options for EPs to choose from and both of which can really help improve ablation results via more consistent transmural lesion creation. This helps not only experienced EP's but also and much less skilled greenhorn EP create more durable burns that create solid lesions long term without any leaks leading to repeat ablations. I would insist they use this new technology especially if not going to top tier EP's.
St Jude's 'Tacticath' Contact Force catheter
McHale
http://www.onlinetmd.com/st-jude-medical-tacticath-ablation-catheter-device-11714.aspx#.VHDNA8lTbcC
McHale
So funny you defended the money these guys make....when I saw my bill and saw that out of $117,000, Dr. Calkins made something along the lines of $14,000 (may have been 16K, remember I am old and senile), my first reaction was "WHAT? This guy held my heart and life in his hands and that is ALL he made?" So I gave him an extra $40 million when I next saw him...well, ok, I gave him $10 worth of Big Game tickets, so if one of them had won he would have gotten the $40 million. You can guess how that turned out. But while I have never met Natale, I can imagine that those of you that have dealt with him have pretty much the same feeling I got when I first met Dr. Calkins..these guys are BRILLIANT, and have an amazing gift of healing. Travis, I second John's thought that you are so lucky to be in Natale's hands. Enjoy the NSR!
Bill