Alcoholism Support Group
Alcoholism is the continued consumption of alcoholic beverages, even when it is negatively affecting your health, work, relationships and life. If you think alcohol is causing you to lose control, it's time to seek help. Our group is a safe place to vent, check in, get back up if you fall, and reach sobriety.
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Thought this was explained the 12 step concept well from a Dr. here on DS.
Its not unusual for certain misunderstandings to surround any organization or group. The following are a few commonly held myths about 12 step groups:
1. Members are told that they will never fully recover. The 12 step program maintains that full and happy living is possible, and full and sustained recovery is absolutely achievable.
2. Members are forced to remain in a position of powerlessness.
The only powerlessness to be found in the 12 step program is that which exists between an individual and their addiction or disease. An alcoholic abdicated all power to liquor; a binge eater did the same with food. Once this powerlessness is recognized and acknowledged, healing can begin.
3. Members are discouraged from having doctors, therapists, or other support. Members embrace any support they deem necessary, whether it be physicians, psychiatrists, dietitians, therapists, or even physical trainers.
4. 12 step groups are religious. The concept of a higher power is fundamental to the 12 steps. However, this higher power does not belong to any church or religion. A higher power is simply who or what an individual turns to in times of need or distress something greater than themselves. A higher power comforts, extends peace, or strength in any given situation. Every person in recovery is encouraged to discover their own definition of a higher power. Knowing someone or something is walking the path of recovery with them often means the difference between ultimate success and failure.
5. The 12 step program does not pertain to eating disorders because people cannot abstain from food. Half of that statement is correct: people cannot abstain from food. However, they can certainly abstain from starving themselves, or abstain from eating an entire pie versus just a slice. They can abstain from unhealthy eating behaviors, such as only eating foods that are white, or never eating bananas. And, they can abstain from purging after theyve completed a meal. The 12 step model encourages people to define which foods and food behaviors fall into the abstinence category at each stage of their progress.
6. Groups such as Overeaters Anonymous or Eating Disorders Anonymous wont work for those with anorexia or bulimia because certain members are overweight. The members of these groups are highly diverse in terms of size and shape; the only requirement for membership is the desire to stop the compulsivity surrounding food, whether its eating too much in one sitting or not eating at all.
7. Over-eater Anonymous members are prohibited from eating white flour or sugar. OA advocates no rules in this regard and does not provide specific dietary or nutritional recommendations. Every person is an individual and has their own meal plan, often created with the help of a nutritionist or dietitian.
Its not unusual for certain misunderstandings to surround any organization or group. The following are a few commonly held myths about 12 step groups:
1. Members are told that they will never fully recover. The 12 step program maintains that full and happy living is possible, and full and sustained recovery is absolutely achievable.
2. Members are forced to remain in a position of powerlessness.
The only powerlessness to be found in the 12 step program is that which exists between an individual and their addiction or disease. An alcoholic abdicated all power to liquor; a binge eater did the same with food. Once this powerlessness is recognized and acknowledged, healing can begin.
3. Members are discouraged from having doctors, therapists, or other support. Members embrace any support they deem necessary, whether it be physicians, psychiatrists, dietitians, therapists, or even physical trainers.
4. 12 step groups are religious. The concept of a higher power is fundamental to the 12 steps. However, this higher power does not belong to any church or religion. A higher power is simply who or what an individual turns to in times of need or distress something greater than themselves. A higher power comforts, extends peace, or strength in any given situation. Every person in recovery is encouraged to discover their own definition of a higher power. Knowing someone or something is walking the path of recovery with them often means the difference between ultimate success and failure.
5. The 12 step program does not pertain to eating disorders because people cannot abstain from food. Half of that statement is correct: people cannot abstain from food. However, they can certainly abstain from starving themselves, or abstain from eating an entire pie versus just a slice. They can abstain from unhealthy eating behaviors, such as only eating foods that are white, or never eating bananas. And, they can abstain from purging after theyve completed a meal. The 12 step model encourages people to define which foods and food behaviors fall into the abstinence category at each stage of their progress.
6. Groups such as Overeaters Anonymous or Eating Disorders Anonymous wont work for those with anorexia or bulimia because certain members are overweight. The members of these groups are highly diverse in terms of size and shape; the only requirement for membership is the desire to stop the compulsivity surrounding food, whether its eating too much in one sitting or not eating at all.
7. Over-eater Anonymous members are prohibited from eating white flour or sugar. OA advocates no rules in this regard and does not provide specific dietary or nutritional recommendations. Every person is an individual and has their own meal plan, often created with the help of a nutritionist or dietitian.
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Get it- help other people, what a concept.
There are definetly a ton of misconceptions around 12 step programs. The only one I have personal experience with, and therefore the only one I can comment on is AA. I've definetly heard people say all sorts of things about it. Generally, but not always, the people who say things like "it doesnt work" havent worked the steps with a sponsor out of the book. The other thing is that there are a ton of sayings and slogans that are attributed to AA and the 12 steps like "put the plug in the jug" which is no where in the big books steps that I know of. Ditto "fake it till you make it." Sometimes people get turned off by the slogans and sayings that arent the 12 steps -- the program out of the big book.
I'm not in recovery I am recovered through Rational Recovery.
Aussie, if you've ever read the Big Book, it's in the very first paragraph of the Foreward. "To show other alcoholics precisely how we have recovered is the main purpose of this book."
Sorry no one pointed that out to you in the 3 years you attended AA.
AA is obviously such a wonderful system, but it's not the only one!
Let's work at a common goal - staying sober and helping others to do the same.
Remember that the 12 steps are simply religious tenents from all of the major religions in the world so they are nothing new, in fact, in Catholiscism, parts are alot like the sacrament of Penance where we do a moral inventory, get honest with ourselves and tell one other person we can trust, ie priest or sponser.
This is coming from an AA member who prefers AA meetings over church services. I seem to get more out of the meetings for some reason.
(IMO) OK?
So people *in* AA can say whatever they want to, part of the beauty of AA...but the fact is the big book says we recover. My sponsor has told me she's recovered and the first time I met with her she told me I could too. And I have.
I've recovered from a hopeless state of mind. And I desire to stay that way. I'm a runner too. I ran 6.5 miles today. If I don't run again for a year, I'll likely fell like crap when I next go out run. So I can't stay fit on today's run, next week. I feel similarly about AA. Its also a pleasure to go to meetings, not a burden. If they were a burden, I would never go to one.
I like to pray and meditate too. Would you suggest I stop because its worked? Not something I'm willing to try:-)