Alcohol Recovery Without 12 Steps Community Group

This group was created to explore various recovery paths for Alcoholism. We generally chose to explore paths outside of the AA model, or ones which incorporate, but are not limited to AA. Anyone wanting to learn and explore how to become free from alcohol addiction are welcome. Our main goal is to support each other with compassion and decency, while remaining open minded...

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YREKADC 06/02/2011

i am 6 months sober and am having a real problem with self destructive thoughts and have acted on them.. i have just started on cinalopram a week ago and my brain won't stop.. how long does it take for that stuff to start working and what am i suppose to feel or ??? will these thoughts stop. i try to change the direction of my thoughts but they just keep comin. would being alone most the time be an issue?? i am trying to get counciling but not allot to choose from where i am.. most don't take new wackos. i am afraid i am going to drive my wife away. poor woman has put up with my crap for 35 years. i try to keep busy but sometimes i am almost imobilized with the stikin thinkin.... i can't get to sleep. game for any suggestions. thanks ahead of time for listening... duane

Rick8 06/02/2011

I got this off the internet on a website about citalpram side effects:

"Tell the doctor immediately if you notice worsening depression/other psychiatric conditions, unusual behavior changes (including possible suicidal thoughts/attempts), or other mental/mood changes (including new/worsening anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, irritability, hostile/angry feelings, impulsive actions, severe restlessness, very rapid speech). Be especially watchful for these symptoms when a new antidepressant is started or when the dose is changed"

In other words call the doctor who prescribed it to you immediately

deleted_user 06/02/2011

Ditto to what Rick said-call doc asap. Self destructive thoughts are dangerous and could be caused by your meds.

YREKADC 06/02/2011

THANKS FOLKS. WILL DO. I LOST THE PRINT OUT ON IT. NOT THINKIN TOO STRAIT..BY SEFL DESTRUCTIVE, I DIDN'T MEAN TO MY PERSON,, MORE TO CREATE PROBLEMS IN MY RELATIONSHIP SO I WILL HAVE A REASON TO DRINK. BUT I GUESS IT IS THE SAME.... THANKS AGAIN... I'LL CALL NOW.... DUANE

deleted_user 06/02/2011

It sounds like this medication could be messing around with your thought process. Please do call and let us know.

YREKADC 06/02/2011

i got hold of the er doc and she said to stop taking it too.. so be it.. may have to try something else.. my wife says my body always reacts weird to that stuff. i got tremors from wellbutrin... and made me very moody in a rude and mean way.. the er doc said i could be bi polar, and i explained that cptsd has simular symptoms as bi polar.. thank everyone for your great advise. i don't think i am thinkin too strait right now. i will wait till i see my new doc on the 14th, see what she advises.. i am trying to get into concealing, no luck today,.
does everyone go thru this stuff?? is it the booze or the cptsd? or both? you folks sure are great and don't let anyone say otherwise... thanks again... duane

ExJerseyGirl2 06/03/2011

Duane, I'm glad you called the Doc -- what you've been going through sounds downright frightening. Personally, I am not going through and did not go through the problems you are dealing with, so I have no insight on what might be behind it. I'm glad you are seeking medical help, but are you sure you want to wait until the 14th to see her? Maybe you can call, explain what's going on and get an earlier appointment?

deleted_user 06/03/2011

Duane, I'm sorry you are going through this. I have tried many meds in the past & my body has freaky reactions, too. It's very scary. I have been going to a really good couselor who prescribe trazadone (it's a sleep aid/anti depressant) & I have had no adverse reactions & do not feel dependent on it. Not saying that's for everyone, just sharing what worked for me. I agree w/ExJerseyGirl, getting an appointment asap would be most helpful, if possible. Thinking of you & hoping this passes quickly & you find some relief. Thanks for sharing, that's half the battle!

YREKADC 06/03/2011

thanks all. bubblygirl; thank you i shall ask my new doc about it. i think the meds kept me awake. i couldn''t stop thinkin. brain wouldn't shut down or even redirect the thoughts to a positive. like grounding i have heard of... i got some sleep last night. so far this morn i am feeling ok.
exjerseygirl2; i will try to get hold of her today. fridays are a hard day to get hold of docs here.. i think i'll be ok for now... i can always hit up the er if things get any weirder.... good advise... yall are great and you don't know how much help you have been for an old monkey.. i'll keep you up to date. dc

deleted_user 06/03/2011

Those antidepressants can do all the things you describe-including make your mind race, keep you up, and scary thoughts. PLEASE follow up with do Duane. I hope you find what helps you. These whacky meds are so hit and miss. Sorry you are struggling.

deleted_user 06/03/2011

follow up with doc i meant.

YREKADC 06/03/2011

thanks karmic; i promise i shall.. i have left a message with the local councilor. it is friday so i don't reckon i'll hear much today... thanks for caring. i didn't take the stuff last night so now i wait . i'll be ok. i have a great support group that don't even mind helping an old monkey like me. some times it takes along time for one to pull his head out of his a**. now that i got it out i plan on keeping it that way... one day at a time. have a happy happy joy joy day all.. dc

deleted_user 06/03/2011

I am glad you called the doctors. I know i am the type of person that absolutely can not take anti-depressants - tried well butrin once when i was gonna stop smoking - NEVER AGAIN - and then about 4 years ago the doctor gave me the smallest dosage of Zoloft by 30 days i said, I can't do this, it's freaking me out. Some bodies just react different to certain medications.

i found that stress relievers, prayer, meditation, changes in my life - made my thought processing work better than the meds - but that was just my experience.

PEace!

YREKADC 06/05/2011

THANKS CB, I RATHER TRY WITHOUT TOO. I AM DOING WELL TODAY. PEACE LOVE AND JOY JOY
DC

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