"That's not right - that's not even wrong"
"Not even wrong (or the full version "That's not right - that's not even wrong") refers to any statement, argument or explanation that can be neither correct nor incorrect, because it fails to meet the criteria by which correctness and incorrectness are determined.
The phrase implies that not only is someone not making a valid point in a discussion, but they don't even seem to understand the nature of the discussion itself, or the things that need to be understood in order to participate."
"Most commonly, not even wrong arguments arise because of a lack of understanding in the person making the argument - either through willful ignorance, or at best by being a bit out of date with current research.
They don't know enough about the subject to know what premises are needed to form the right argument and probably are completely unaware of that fact.
This can be caused by the Dunning-Kruger effect, where someone makes a not even wrong argument but lacks the meta-cognitive ability to recognise that they don't know enough to make a wrong argument, never mind a right one...."
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong
The phrase implies that not only is someone not making a valid point in a discussion, but they don't even seem to understand the nature of the discussion itself, or the things that need to be understood in order to participate."
"Most commonly, not even wrong arguments arise because of a lack of understanding in the person making the argument - either through willful ignorance, or at best by being a bit out of date with current research.
They don't know enough about the subject to know what premises are needed to form the right argument and probably are completely unaware of that fact.
This can be caused by the Dunning-Kruger effect, where someone makes a not even wrong argument but lacks the meta-cognitive ability to recognise that they don't know enough to make a wrong argument, never mind a right one...."
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong
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