SAINTS AND SOLDIERS

I THINK IF I TRULY WANTED TO,(WHICH I DON'T) I COULD WRITE AN ENTIRE BOOK ON THIS SUBJECT MATTER.  IT IS PROBABLY THE SUBJECT THAT FRUSTRATES ME THE VERY MOST ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, AND PROBABLY EVEN THIS ENTIRE WORLD.  IT IS ABOUT TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT GOD HAS PURPOSELY CREATED IN THIS WORLD SIMPLY FOR HIS AMUSEMENT.  THIS GOES WELL BEYOND SIMPLY MEN AND WOMEN, FOR I HAVE NOTICED MEN SAINTS AND SOLDIERS AS WELL AS WOMEN SAINTS AND SOLDIERS.  THIS COULD BE BROKEN DOWN INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF CATEGORIES DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU CHOOSE.  I CHOOSE SAINTS AND SOLDIERS BECAUSE THEY ARE COMMENLY KNOWN CHRISTIAN TERMS THAT I BELIEVE APPLY.  YOU ON THE OTHER HAND COULD CALL IT:  RIGHT AND LEFT BRAINED; CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERALS; SQUARES AND GREASERS; YUPPIES AND HIPPIES; INTELECTUALS AND HUSTLERS; BOOK SMART PEOPLE AND STREET SMART PEOPLE; GOOD PEOPLE AND BAD PEOPLE; THOSE THAT LIVE BY LAW AND THOSE THAT LIVE BY FREEDOM, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.  THERE IS A GENETIC CODE WITHIN PEOPLE THAT GOD HAS CREATED THAT HAS MADE THEM DIFFERENT TO THEIR VERY CORE'S.  IT'S ALMOST LIKE BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD, GOD IMAGINED ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HE WOULD CREATE THROUGHOUT ALL TIME, AND HE RANDOMLY LINED THEM UP IN A STRAIGHT LINE AND JUST WENT THROUGH THE LINE AND POINTED AT EACH ONE OF THEM AND SAID YOU, RED TEAM; YOU, BLUE TEAM; YOU, RED TEAM; YOU, BLUE TEAM; YOU, RED TEAM; YOU, BLUE TEAM; ALTERNATING ONE BY ONE ON DOWN THE LINE OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE ALIVE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD, AND NOW WE ARE IN ONE HELL OF A GAME OF KICK BALL, OR DODGE BALL, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.  IT'S PRETTY ELEMENTARY, BUT IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE FIGHT FOR OUR ENTIRE LIVES, OR WE AGREE TO DISAGREE AND LEARN TO LOVE EACH OTHER AND WORK TOGETHER HELPING EACH OTHER DESPITE OUR CORE DIFFERENCES WHICH IS WHAT I THINK GOD'S ORIGINAL PLAN WAS IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT OH BOY, IS IT SURE FUN TO WATCH FROM ABOVE AT HOW WE GROW AND LEARN TO GET TO THAT POINT OF MATURITY IN OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL LIVES.  AND GOD KNOWS EACH ONE OF US INTIMATELY, SO JUST IMAGINE THE FUN HE HAS FROM ABOVE SEEING JUST HOW AND WHEN WE LEARN TO HANDLE THE CORE DIFFERENCE THAT HE HAS MADE WITHIN US PURPOSELY.   OK NOW, BACK TO THE TWO TERMS THAT I HAVE CLASSIFIED IN CHRISTIANITY OF SAINTS AND SOLDIERS FOR WHICH IT IS THE REASON I'M BOTHERING TO WRITE IN THE FIRST PLACE.  NOW HAVING A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION IS ONE THING, BUT WHEN YOU THROW IN THE WORD OF GOD AND ONE'S ETERNAL DESTINATION TO HEAVEN OR HELL, IT BECOMES SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT AND MUCH MORE SEVERE.  GROWING UP AS A BOY, I REMEMBER REALLY HATING CHRISTIANS OR RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.  THEY ALWAYS TREATED ME LIKE I WAS SCUM OF THE EARTH AND ACTED LIKE THEY WERE PERFECT AND HOLY WHEN I COULD SEE RIGHT THROUGH THEM, AND THEY ACTED JUST AS FUCKED UP AS I DID, WHICH I REALLY DIDN'T MIND, BUT THEY LIED ABOUT IT, AND DID IT WHEN NO ONE WAS LOOKING, SO PEOPLE WOULD STILL THINK THAT THEY WERE GOOD CHRISTIANS OR WHATEVER, AND I JUST HATED THE WAY THEY WOULD TREAT ME SO BADLY, AND MAKE ME SERVE THEM AND ACT LIKE THEY WERE KINGS AND QUEENS OVER ME, BECAUSE I ACTED "NORMAL," AND THEY ACTED HIGH AND MIGHTY.  WELL, THERE CAME A DAY AFTER MY DAD DIED TO WHERE I HEARD A MESSAGE THAT GOD LOVED ME JUST AS I WAS, AND HIS SON DIED ON THE CROSS TO FORGIVE ALL OF MY SINS IN THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE, AND IF I BELIEVED IN HIM THEN I WOULD GO TO HEAVEN WHEN I DIED, AND WHILE I LIVED, GOD WOULD BE MY FATHER FOR HE WAS THE FATHER TO THE FATHERLESS.  NOW HERE I WAS A 15 YEAR OLD PUNK KID WHO JUST LOST HIS FATHER JUST OVER A YEAR BEFORE THAT, THAT ALMIGHTY GOD WOULD BE MY DADDY NOW IF I WOULD BELIEVE IN HIS SON, AND NOT ONLY THAT, THIS BADASS PUNK MOTHERFUCKA WOULD BE FORGIVEN FOR ALL HIS SINS THAT HE WOULD EVER COMMITT THROUGHOUT HIS ENTIRE LIFE ON EARTH.  WELL, NEEDLESS TO SAY, I WAS SOLD AND MY HEART WAS BEATING OUT OF MY CHEST AS I HEARD THIS MESSAGE, AND AS THEY GAVE THE INVITATION TO ACCEPT CHRIST AS THEIR SAVIOR, I RAISED MY HAND THAT I HAD SAID THE PRAYER OF SALVATION.  I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT I JUST DID, AND WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS REAL OR NOT, BUT JUST THEN, A MAN CAME UP TO ME, AND SAID SOMETHING TO THE AFFECT OF, I SAW YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TALK ABOUT IT?  I WAS LIKE SURE, WELL, IT WAS IN THAT BACK ROOM BEHIND THE ALTER WHERE IT ALL BECAME VERY REAL TO ME.  HIS NAME WAS WES, AND HE BROKE OUT THE "4 SPIRITUAL LAWS" BOOKLET, AND WE WENT THROUGH IT, AND IT BASICLY DESCRIBED WORD FOR WORD HOW TO BE SAVED AND GO TO HEAVEN, AND WE PRAYED AGAIN FOR ME TO RECEIVE CHRIST, AND THIS TIME IT ALL SUNK IN AND BECAME VERY REAL FOR ME.  WELL, THAT WASN'T ENOUGH FOR WES, AND HE DID SOMETHING VERY PROFOUND THAT DIDN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE TO ME, BUT IT SURE WOULD LATER IN MY LIFE, HE WROTE DOWN THE DATE AND TIME ON MY 4 LAWS BOOKLET OF "4/7/1993.....8:15 P.M."  THAT BECAME TO ME LIKE THE GREAT SEAL OF SALVATION.  I KNEW AT THAT POINT THAT I WAS SAVED AND A CHILD OF GOD.  NOW I LATER LEARNED THAT I WAS ADOPTED BY GOD THAT NIGHT, AND THOSE THAT WERE ADOPTED COULD NEVER BE CAST AWAY.  IT WAS PERMINANT.  GOD COULD NEVER GO BACK AND SAY, WELL ROB, I SAW YOU DID THIS, THIS, AND THAT, SO YOU ARE NO LONGER MY CHILD.  HE COULDN'T DO THAT, IT WAS A VOW TO ME THAT COULDN'T EVER BE BROKEN.  I HAD FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE SINCE MY DAD DIED, SECURITY, AND THIS WASN'T JUST NORMAL SECURITY, IT WAS ETERNAL SECURITY, AND SOUL SECURITY.  I WAS HIS SON, AND HE WAS MY DADDY.    A FEW MONTHS AFTER I GOT SAVED, I BEGAN TO GO TO CALVARY COMMUNITY CHURCH, IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA.  I WENT TO EVERY SERVICE I COULD, AND IF THEY EVER HAD A RETREAT, THEN I WOULD TRY TO GO TO THAT WHICH STARTED WITH THESE HIGH SCHOOL GROUP RETREATS TO "THE HARVEST CRUSADE" IN ANIHEIM, CALIFORNIA AT ANGELS STADIUM.  THOSE WERE TRULY AN AWESOME TIME.  WE WENT TO THE BEACH EVERY DAY, AND BODY SURFED AND BOOGIE BOARDED AND GOT TORCHED BY THE SUN, IT WAS JUST AWESOME, AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO PACIFIC COLLEGE WHERE WE WERE STAYING AND SHOWER UP, AND GET IN BUSES TO GO TO THE STADIUM WHERE GREG LAURIE WOULD BE CONDUCTING THE HARVEST CRUSADE EACH NIGHT.  ONE NIGHT, HE GAVE THE INVITATION TO COME OUT ON THE FIELD AND RECEIVE CHRIST, AND ALTHOUGH I WAS ALREADY SAVED AND KNEW THAT, THIS WAS STILL A CHANCE OF A LIFE TIME TO GO OUT ONTO ANGELS FIELD AND BE AN "ANGEL IN THE OUTFIELD," SO BEING THE AVID SPORTS FAN THAT I WAS, I WENT DOWN ONTO THE FIELD, AND IT WAS TRULY AN AWESOME FEELING TO BE OUT THERE AND LOOK BACK UP INTO THE STANDS FROM THE ATHLETES PERSPECTIVE.    NOW I KNOW THAT I'M GOING OFF ON A BIT OF A TANGENT, BUT THERE WILL BE A POINT EVENTUALLY.  I HOPE.HEHE.  OK, AT CALVARY I LEARED A LOT ABOUT THE GRACE AND FORGIVENESS OF GOD, AND I PRETTY MUCH INTERPRETED WHAT I WAS TAUGHT THROUGH THE WORD OF GOD, THAT SIN WASN'T REALLY AN ISSUE FOR THE CHILDREN OF GOD FOR IT WAS ALL PAID FOR ON THE CROSS AND COVERED WITH JESUS' BLOOD.  THAT GOD DIDN'T SEE YOUR SIN, HE JUST SAW HIS SON'S BLOOD COVERING YOUR LIFE FROM THE MOMENT YOU RECEIVED HIM.  THAT THERE WAS NEVER NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE WHO WERE IN CHRIST JESUS, AND YES, I TRIED TO BE A GOOD LITTLE CHRISTIAN BOY, AND I HAD QUIT CUSSING, AND QUIT LOOKING AT WOMEN WITH LUST, AND EVEN AT SOME POINT THREW AWAY ALL OF MY HARDCORE GANGSTA RAP.  YEP, EVERY SINGLE CASSETTE THAT HAD A PARENTAL ADVISORY STICKER ON IT(WELL OVER 250 CASSETTES), I TOSSED IT.  I BEGAN TO ONLY LISTEN TO AIR1, A CHRISTIAN RADIO STATION, AND....I WAS ABSOLUTELY MISERABLE.  SO I ASKED GOD, WHY AM I DOING ALL THIS GOOD STUFF, AND ALL THE RIGHT "CHRISTIAN" THINGS AND FEEL ABSOLUTELY MISERABLE AND WITHOUT THE JOY THAT I ONCE HAD.  IN A SENSE, HE TOLD ME, ROB, THIS IS NOT WHO I CREATED YOU TO BE.  I MADE YOU WHO YOU ARE ON PURPOSE AND I AM GOING TO USE YOU IN A MIGHTY WAY JUST THE WAY I MADE YOU TO BE...SO CUT THIS GOODY TWO SHOES SHIT OUT.LOL.  OK, NOW GOD PROBABLY DOESN'T CUSS AND THAT'S BLASPHEMOUS AND ALL, BUT HE WAS TELLING ME TO BE WHO I TRULY WAS, AND NOT WHO I THOUGHT HE WANTED ME TO BE.  I WAS A SOLDIER, AND HE NEEDED ME TO BE A SOLDIER, AND NOT A PUSSY-ASS SAINT.     SAINTS ARE VERY GOOD PEOPLE...IN PUBLIC, BUT THEY ARE ALSO VERY VERY JUDGEMENTAL ABOUT PEOPLE WHO AREN'T SO GOOD. THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH LIKE THE PHARISEES AND SADDUCEES THAT JESUS FOUGHT AGAINST IN THE GOSPELS.  THE TERMS BROOD OF VIPERS, AND WHITE WASHED TOMBS FULL OF DEAD MANS BONES, OR SHINING BOWLS ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT ABSOLUTELY FILTHY INSIDE WERE SPOKEN ABOUT THE KEEPERS OF THE LAW BY JESUS HIMSELF.  AND LIKE JESUS, IT MAKES ME SICK.  JESUS WAS A PERFECT MAN, BUT JESUS LOVED THOSE WHO WERE IMPERFECT.  THE OUTCASTS, THE PROTITUTES, THE THIEVES, THE FISHERMAN, THE LEPARS, THE DEMON POSSESSED, THE SICK, THE HURTING, THE TAX COLLECTORS.  THESE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT JESUS HUNG AROUND WITH.  THE PEOPLE WHO WERE REAL, AND LIVED NORMAL EVERYDAY LIVES DOING THE BEST THEY COULD.  JESUS HUNG OUT WITH SINNERS, *GASPS*, NO NOT SINNERS, YES, FUCKING SINNERS. THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD HUMBLE THEMSELVES ENOUGH TO ADMIT AND TELL THE TRUTH AND SAY, FORGIVE ME LORD FOR I AM A SINNER.  HE HUNG OUT WITH PEOPLE WHO SINNED DAILY.  HE HUNG OUT WITH EVERYDAY NORMAL PEOPLE WHO WERE JUST LIKE YOU AND ME.  NOW WHAT KIND OF LANGUAGE DO YOU THINK FISHERMAN USED?  HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE TERM CUSSED LIKE A SAILOR?  WELL, DON'T YOU THINK FISHERMAN WERE THE ORIGINAL SAILORS, AND THESE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT CHRIST HUNG OUT WITH AND CALLED HIS VERY DISCIPLES.  SAINTS BASICLY FOLLOW THE LAWS OF SOCIETY AND CONDEMN EVERYONE ELSE WHO DOESN'T.  THEY GOSSIP ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE'S SIN, AND THEY LOOK DOWN ON THOSE WHO DO OPENLY SIN INSTEAD OF HIDING IT IN THE CLOSET LIKE THEY DO.  GOD SAYS TO COME BOLDLY TO THE THRONE OF GRACE, WHICH MEANS LIVE YOUR LIFE OUT IN THE OPEN, AND WHO YOU ARE WHEN NOBODY IS WATCHING IS STILL WHO YOU ARE, SO YOU MAY AS WELL COME OUT AND BE WHO YOU ARE WITH THE WORLD WATCHING, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT FOOLING ME ANYWAY.  I HAVE FOUND THAT THIS IS THE REASON THAT I HATED CHRISTIANS.  I DIDN'T REALLY HATE CHRISTIANS, I HATED FAKE-ASS SAINTS WHO CONSTANTLY TALKED SHIT ABOUT ME, AND LOOKED DOWN ON ME FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE SAD PART IS, THEY STILL DO TO THIS DAY, BECAUSE I DON'T ACT "CHRISTIAN" ENOUGH FOR THEM, AND IT REALLY MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH.  THEY STILL BELIEVE THAT IF YOU SIN AS A CHRISTIAN THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HELL.  BUT WHAT THEY DON'T SEE IS THAT IF THAT IS TRUE, THEN CHRIST'S LIFE WAS ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS.  HE WAS SIMPLY A MORAL TEACHER THAT YOU NEEDED TO FOLLOW PERCISELY, OR YOU WERE GOING TO HELL.  NO!!!  THIS IS NOT WHAT CHRIST'S MESSAGE WAS.  HIS MESSAGE WAS THAT UNLESS YOU WERE GOD,(WHICH ALL OF YOU ARE NOT) YOU CAN NOT LIVE PERFECTLY IN ACCORDANCE TO THE LAW  IT IS IMPOSSIBLE, SO DON'T EVEN TRY IT.  YOU IN YOUR SELF WILL FAIL. PERIOD.  SO YOU BETTER HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS GREATER THAN YOU COVER YOUR LIFE TO ATONE FOR YOUR LAWLESSNESS(NO MATTER HOW BIG OR SMALL) SO YOU CAN BE ACCEPTABLE TO GOD AND ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.  HE PROVIDED THE PERFECT GATE THROUGH HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST, AND HE EVEN TOLD YOU HE WAS THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, AND "NO ONE" COULD COME(BE RIGHT BEFORE GOD) TO GOD ACCEPT THROUGH HIM.  HE SAID THIS WHEN HE WAS STILL ALIVE KNOWING HE WAS GOING TO DIE AND BE RESURRECTED ON THE THIRD DAY.  THIS IS WHY POLITICALLY, CONSERVATIVES MAKE ME SO MAD BECAUSE ALL THEY DO IS TALK SHIT ABOUT HOW WRETCHED OF SINNERS AND "AGAINST GOD AND THE BIBLE," LIBERALS ARE AND BLAH BLAH BLAH.  OK, YES, I WILL SAY THIS, IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN CHRIST, AND HAVE NOT EVER ASKED HIM TO BE YOUR SAVIOR BEFORE YOU TAKE YOUR LAST BREATH, YOU ARE GOING TO HELL.  LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN...YOU ARE GOING TO HELL.  NOW, IF YOU WANT TO AVOID GOING TO HELL, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY.  AND THAT ONE WAY IS ONLY THROUGH BELIEVING IN JESUS CHRIST AND HAVING A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.  IT'S NOT, I REPEAT, IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING A GOOD PERSON AT ALL.  IT'S ABOUT JESUS' GOODNESS AND HIS PERFECTION AND HIS SACRIFICE THAT WILL COVER YOUR LIFE AND MAKE YOU ACCEPTABLE TO GOD AND BE ALLOWED INTO HEAVEN RATHER THAN HELL.  JUST ONCE IN YOUR LIFE, YOU NEED TO HUMBLE YOURSELF AND ASK JESUS TO BE YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR.  YEP, JUST ONCE.  CAN YOU DO IT MORE THAN ONCE AND RECOMMIT YOUR LIFE?  SURE, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN COVERED, YOU WERE ALREADY SAVED, YOU JUST WANT TO TRY AND LIVE MORE OF A LIFE THAT EDIFIES CHRIST, AND THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD.  THAT IS NOT BEING A SAINT, THAT IS TAKING WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS DONE IN YOUR LIFE AND ROLLING WITH IT.  BEING A SAINT IS ABOUT HATING AND LOOKING DOWN ON OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T COMPARE TO YOU.  THIS IS THE TRAP THAT A LOT OF CHRISTIANS FALL INTO SAYING UGH, YOU ARE NOT ACTING GODLY OR CHRISTIKE, AND BLAH BLAH BLAH.  OK, YOU MAY NOT BE, BUT WHO THE FUCK ARE THEY TO OPEN THERE LITTLE FUCKIN' MOUTHS AND TELL AND JUDGE YOU THAT YOU AREN'T.  JUDGING IS LEFT UP TO THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU.  THAT IS WHO IS GOING TO BE ADVISING YOU WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IN YOUR LIFE, AND HOW YOU SHOULD LIVE.  YOU RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT WHEN YOU RECEIVE CHRIST.  IT'S THAT STILL SMALL VOICE IN YOUR HEAD AND YOUR THOUGHTS THAT DIRECTS YOU ON WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING.  NOW IF YOU GO AGAINST THAT, THERE WILL BE DISCIPLINE FROM YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN...BUT NOT JUDGMENT, OR PUNISHMENT.  GOD SAYS TO ALL THAT HE CALLS SONS AND DAUGHTERS, HE WILL DISCIPLINE, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, SOLDIERS GET DISCIPLINED A LOT.  WE ARE THE RED HEADED STEP CHILD, BUT HE STILL LOVES US, AND HOW MUCH MORE DOES HE LOVE US THAT COMES HOME FROM BEING DISOBIDIANT THAN THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN GOOD LITTLE CHRISTIANS ALL THEIR LIVES.  WHERE SIN ABOUNDS, HIS LOVE AND GRACE AND MERCY MUCH MORE ABOUNDS.  SO THIS CAN ALL BE SUMMED UP WITH THIS...LOVE GOD AND LOVE PEOPLE, AND IF THAT IS TO MUCH FOR YOU TO WRAP YOUR MIND AROUND, THEN US SOLDIERS HAVE THIS PARAPHRASE FOR YOU SAINTS...MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS.  DON'T FUCK WITH ME, AND I WON'T FUCK WITH YOU.  BUT IF YOU DO FUCK WITH ME, OR ANY OTHER SOLDIER, THEY WILL COME BACK AND FUCK YOU THE FUCK UP, FOR FUCKING REAL.  BITCH!!!     NOW THEN, DO YOU ALL HAVE A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A TRUE CHRISTIAN NOW?  GOOD.  NOW YOU SAINTS OUT THERE CAN FEEL FREE TO STOP HATIN' US SOLDIERS.  IT'S OPTIONAL, BUT YOU JUST BE YOU, AND IF IT'S IN YOUR NATURE TO HATE, THEN FEEL FREE TO COME HATE ON ME BECAUSE I WILL THOROUGHLY ENJOY FUCKING WITH YOU WITH ALL I GOT AND WITH A SMILE BLARED ACROSS MY FACE TOO.

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AMEN !! BROTHER !! SOLDIER \"SCORP 55\" REPORTING !!
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wow...i wished i was really into God like you are...i used to be but i lost it....!!!!!!!!!!...i admire your strong faith...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SuperMonkey81
SuperMonkey81

HOMIE, YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MIND. YOU AND I ARE ONE IN THE SAME. YOU ARE MY ETERNAL HOMEBOY NEXT TO THE ONE AND ONLY JESUS CHRIST. GOD BLESS YOU BROTHA.
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The greatest commandment is to love God with our whole heart, our whole mind, our whole spirit and to our neighbor the same and that doesn\'t just mean our brother is Christ but EVERYONE that includes our eniemes....
Also if they were TRUE Christains then they would know they are NOT in any position to judge ANYONE else because no one but God can read our TRUE heart condition.
I change my mind on my original position Rob, I am proud to be called a soldier!
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Rob, I have to speak concerning this journal from my heart. If you become offended I am sorry...You are right on, on so many levels but I do disagree on some of the things you spoke about...It sounds like you are hurting very bad and have been hurt by so called christians...I too have been hurt by the christian world and judged by my parents and other family for certain things I did and still do.
I know that you have studied the word of God and have a huge heart..I can see it and always enjoy your comments on my group....I am sad that you found no praise music to lift up the king that you enjoyed...There is a lot of rap and gansta christian groups now that rap the word of God which is powerful and gets into your spirit...God is a spirit and he is seeking those worshipers who can worship in spirit and in truth..Now about your language...HA, I know that you were purposely trying to make a point but I want to share some scriptures with you on the tongue////I dont want to come across as being holier than thou, I am not saying that, I struggle with many things....I just want to see what you think about the verses below...

Colossians 4:6: \"Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned.\" Or Ephesians 4:29: \"[Use the kind of speech that] is good for building up, [that] fits the occasion, [so] that it may give grace to those who hear.. But in negative terms, listen to the first part of Ephesians 4:29: Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths. And a few verses later, in Ephesians 5:4: \"Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place.\"
In that verse I just read (Ephesians 5:4), Paul uses three Greek words that describe the kind of language he commands us to avoid. In English, it\'s filthiness . . . foolish talk . . . [and] crude joking.The Greek terms are aischrotes, meaning \"obscenity, indecency, impurity. Filthiness is a fitting translation. It refers to language that has overtones of moral defilement. The jargon of the porn industry, It literally means \"dirty words\"the stuff your mom probably threatened to wash your mouth out with soap for. Paul doesn\'t give a list of them, because he doesn\'t need to. Every culture has an unwritten list of them, and everyone pretty much knows what they are. They are the same words that affect the MPAA-ratings of movies. They are the calling-cards of carnal conversation. Notice, Paul doesn\'t say avoid them as much as possible. He classifies it in exactly the same category as fornication, and he says with as much emphasis as possible, \"let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints.\"
Scripture says such things are not \"proper among saints

Unclean lips are a disqualifying factor. That\'s one of the incidental points of Isaiah 6. Isaiah cursed himself and tried to hide, saying \"Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!\" When God called him to be a prophet, the first thing that happened was an angel cleansed those filthy lips with a hot coal.

Again, that\'s just one of the secondary lessons of Isaiah 6. The central lesson is that God is \"\"Holy, holy, holy.\" Our lives and lips must reflect that.
Yes Jesus hung out with sinners and prostitutes, and tax collectors and was totally against the pastors of his day and said beware of the yeast of the Pharisees...This is what I think you are saying....God didn\'t say don\'t drink wine, he said don\'t get drunk, he didn\'t say don\'t eat he said don\'t be a glutton, he didn\'t say don\'t have sex, he said don\'t commit adultery...
However he did say a lot about judging and cursing....Perfect love cast out fear...We have to love those who judge us and point fingers at us and say all manner of evil against us...we have to forgive and love....and we have to be holy as he is holy and the scriptures tell us to not do anything that may cause a stumbling block for our brothers and sisters..so if we can have a glass or two of wine but they cant stop with one or two and have a problem with it we are not to drink in front of them...If you can say curse words and not feel bad about it but it offends an older lady or child shouldn\'t you refrain? The Holy Spirit is pure and all Holy..would you speak this language in his presence? I don\'t know Rob if I could and I have said many a curse word in my day...I hope you know I do not mean any harm or to offend you but Love you as a saint and a solider!
jvega
jvega

Christians is a title given to a people who share similarities in thinking, however it is by each one of our relationships with God, thru the Lord, that we can become who He wants us to be and have us do according to His Will. He does want us to have the darkness removed from our life, the being baptized by fire... and He has a way for us to get closer to Him, everyone is at a different point in there relationship with Him, yet there are standards that distinguish us from when we do His Will and when we do not. Here are some scriptures that address some of the things you mentioned, He will use you in ministries that are specific to what you\'ve been thru and have been prepared for:

1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

John 14:21
He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.

Matthew 5:19
Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Revelation 17:14
These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.

Some music I think you may enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duj9sS-mqSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MllhC0qyEjY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1-43Qi-d0s

John 8:12
Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.

Also 1 Corinthians 10:1-13 makes for good reading.
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whew, quite a piece! i read it twice.
you do have a way of writing, you don\'t mince words!

gosh, you have been thru much. and still being tested; but that\'s how it is for us all isn\'t it?
thank you for sharing this, i\'m glad i read it.
myself i\'ve never really thought about this subject, though i of course have \'heard\' things. . . i figure there is a reason for saints AND soldiers.

a dear friend, almost 64 yrs old, is an institutionalized fellow. he\'d get a duece less, come out and rob a parking meter in daylight JUST to get caught and go home.
now he\'s doing a stetch in a Federal Pen (William Head/Vanc Island) and chances of gettin out are, well, next to none.

a mutual friend is in communication with him, she writes to me now \'n\' again.

he is one of THE most devout solid Christian men. solid. he goes by the Preacher, with variations...b/c he ministers to inmates and has quite a following!

i tell you this b/c were he to read your piece here, he would say---LOUDLY---amen brother!

me i\'m not a saint nor a soldier. @ least not yet, who knows what my Father has planned for me? hah! sometimes; now that i think about it, i could fall into the latter group!

i suspect that if you are in the company of folks who don\'t cuss, certainly not that old F word---you sit @ the table and refrain from offending them.

take care Rob
love and peace out and God bless you, your dear wife and your precious son.
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Hello Gzus, I am going to have to agree with Tekoa on this one. James 3:10-11 says: \"Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring?\"

I do believe that Christ accepts us as we are. I do believe that we are forgiven of all sin. I also believe in eternal security of the believer. BUT, I also do believe that grace in salvation teaches us \"to say \"No\" to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, \" (Titus 2:11-12).

You seem to boast that you can sin it up because you are accepted in Christ as you are. I can\'t tell but it also appears that progressive sanctification in the life of the believer is not important by what you are saying. Your comments sound more like \"Shall we continue in sin that grace might abound?\" (Romans 6:1). The apostle Paul rebuked those that boasted about a fellow believers sexual sin:

\"And you are proud! Shouldn\'t you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this?\" (1st Corinthians 5:2).

God accepts the adulterer but grace should be teaching him/her to leave such a sin. When Jesus forgave the adulterous woman, He told her to go and sin no more as that is what grace and forgiveness should be teaching us. Only the false teachers in Jude 4 were turning the grace of God into a license to sin teaching. Even Peter in 2nd Peter 1:6 tells us to add to our faith \"godliness.\"

Yes, God doesn\'t want us to change but He wants to do that for us as we are powerless to do so. Col. 2:6 teaches that as we received Christ Jesus (by faith) that we are to walk in the same manner (by faith). Too many people subject themselves to rules and other things to keep them from sin. Paul admitted that it appears to be a form of humility but it will do nothing to stop gratifying the sinful nature. This is why people fail to have victory over sin because they are doing it in the power of their flesh. This is why quitting sins are difficult because God didn\'t change those desires yet and the Scripture teaches in Galatians 5 that we are to keep in step with the Spirit, but so many of us are so quick to try and get ahead of Him. I change as my understanding in Christ grows.

Walking by faith, abiding in Christ, walking by the Spirit is what Scripture teaches as to how we overcome sin. We are to focus on our standing and not our state. If we focus on our state (our sins) then we will be conformed to its consequences and that often is depression, feelings of failure, anxiety and so on. Focusing on Christ ought to be transforming us into His image (2nd Cor. 3:18).

To say that God accepts us as we are so that means you can just continue living in sin as you were the day you were saved contradicts scores of verses. We were created in Christ Jesus for good works (Ephesians 2:10). Grace is to be teaching us to deny ALL manners of ungodliness. Here is an illustration to hopefully clear this up:

Let\'s pretend that you live next door to a man that you just despise. He did nothing to you but you simply cannot stand him. You treat his wife and kids like dirt because they belong to him. One night, you were out with a bunch of friends and when you left to come home was when you discovered that your house was burning down. You noticed a body with a blanket over it clearly indicating that someone just died. You run to the nearest firefighter in panic telling them who you are and if your family is OK. The firefighter assured you that your family is OK as they were in the ambulance receiving some oxygen. You rush over to your family and console your crying children and embrace your wife apologizing that you were not there for them. After a little while you walk over to the firefighter and ask, \"Who is the man under the blanket?\" The firefighter said, \"Your next door neighbor must have seen the smoke and ran over. It was he that saved your family as your family was trapped upstairs in the bedroom. This man saved your family but was overtaken by the flames and smoke himself.\" That is when you notice his family embracing each other crying over the husband/father and a hero they just lost.

Now, would you still despise your next door neighbors family? Would you say, \"Well, he saved my family knowing what I was like so that means that I can continue being to his family the way I have always been\"??? Would you really treat his family like dirt simply because their husband/father knew that you were mean to them when he saved your family?? I honestly believe that what he had done for you would cause you to go out of your way to treat his family with the utmost respect.

That is how I see salvation. Yes, God saved me when I was a dirty rotten sinner. He accepted me as I am. However, how can I sin against such love? Yes, I still sin but the thought of what He had done for me causes me to bow my head in shame when I openly sin. I know that I am already pleasing to my Savior but I want my works to be labors of love to Him for what He had done for me. I will close with what the apostle Paul said in 2nd Corinthians 5:14-15:

\"For Christ\'s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.\"