Financial advisors vs quality of life

I was watching Suzy Orman the other day and a 10 year old child called, wanting to know if it were financially advisable to buy a thirty dollar Wii game.  She told him no.  Later a twenty-three year old wanted to take a trip to Paris.  She was also told no.  Why?  Because they need to be saving for their retirment.
I was twenty and working on my first job when our boss mentioned retirement.  I worked with a bunch of kids my age and we all laughed.  Afterall, less than a year ago, most of us were still drawing an allowance.  Boy, do I wish I had listened.  I didn't start saving until I was 35 years old, and then only a little.  What did I do with the money?  Traveled around the world, bought what I wanted, when I wanted, and charged most of it on credit cards.  Do I regret it?  Somewhat, but not the traveling.  I just wish I'd found a middle-ground.  Travel for ten years, then saved for retirement.  Or mixed it up and did both, but I do not believe in denying yourself every luxiry just to save for the future you may never have.
My DH was always going on about retirement.  I'd tell him that retirement is a modern day invention.  It's not in the bible.  The bible tells us to save for seven years of famine(which I did, sort of).  Until the 1930s in the USA, people worked until they died.  People didn't live that much past 65.
Back to Suzy Orman.  To me, she's basically telling people to wait to enjoy life.  To save for old-age.  In fact she told the young woman who wanted to travel to Paris, that being older doesn't mean you feel different.  You'll feel the same as you did in your 20s, she said.  There's no reason to take the trip now.
 
But what if, I thought.
At twenty, I had a friend who said she wanted to wait until she'd finished raising her children before she traveled.  She got married as a teen and had her first child a year later.  And I told her I'm traveling now.  I don't know what the future will bring.  What if we're in another world war and you can't travel. 
I was right.  Twenty years later and 9/11 occurred, terroism rapid across the world.  Today on the newscast I saw Bangkok is the mist of violence.  Let's not forget the natural disasters.  In short, most of the places I visited, I wouldn't now because I'd fear for my safety.  MY friend never got to travel, but spent her life caring for her children and struggling financially.
I guess my point is, that it doesn't make sense to me to deny one's self  everything just to insure this so-called retirement years.  One financial advisor even said people should stop buying Lattes at coffee shops.  Save the money for retirement, he admonished.  Yet, none of us are guranteed a future.  We only know what whe have now.
My husband lived to be 59.5.  He did not enjoy one penny of his retirement money.  I say pass the latte.
 
 
 
 
 

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deleted_user
deleted_user

I actually agree with you. I believe in moderation - a rational mix of things. We have all learned that waiting for tomorrow doesn\'t work because you can lose your husband and never get to tomorrow to carry out all your plans. He was planning to retire early - 62 yrs 10 mos - the earliest he could collect Social Security. Maybe even earlier and just collect his pension and wait for SocSec. He had a bad family history and wasn\'t expect to become very old and wanted us to enjoy as many years together as we could.

We got the working/saving years behind us but didn\'t quite get to the retirement/travel years, since he died at age 61.

Don\'t get me wrong. We socked away as much as we could into our retirement plans and into our investment account, without taking food off our table or denying ourselves the little luxuries and going out that make daily life worthwhile. I would NEVER advise anybody to spend it all now, enjoy yourself, tomorrow will take care of itself - in fact, I used to give a seminar for middle-aged women to help them plan because they were afraid of outliving their assets. Not a pretty picture.

So I\'m advocating both, in a reasonable mix that makes sense and doesn\'t prevent you from providing for your future. Suzy Orman is trying to make a point and exaggerating for effect; a balance is better.

Is it a great thing to be the most deprived person in the world, never going anywhere, denying yourself everything, and then you die and all this wealth goes to your children without your ever having enjoyed it?

Pass the latte indeed! You should have a budget in mind (even an informal one, just to be aware of your cash flow) and it definitely needs a line item for little indulgences like restaurants, coffee shops, movies, etc.

Hugs, Gail
deleted_user
deleted_user

Balance and moderation in everything! That\'s my motto so only one latte per day...well most days. Enjoy yourself and try to put some aside for the future.
Cindy xxoo
janalM
janalM

My husband and I since we were in the military traveled on their dime. We went a lot of places and saw a lot of things. After we got out, we would have forgone a vacation to be able to buy a window for the house. Neither one of us minded I don\'t think. He worked for a university after he retired from the military and had a wonderful retirement plan. However by the time he passes, it was over half eaten away by the stock market. There was no time for it to recover. It left me with very little to live on. So I\'m kind of with you, I wish at times we had built more memories. What we waited for never came and its not the way he would have wanted to leave me. Hey, want to come for a latte ?
deleted_user
deleted_user

You are so right and thanks for this entry. I have been struggling a lot lately with the \"what will I do about retirement\" question. I am 44 years old and have nothing. Dan and I had some money saved for retirement. Unfortunately, cancer struck at 42 and every penny of our retirement and more was used to pay medical expenses. He had good insurance, but it still devastated us. I am left behind with a pile of bills and very little income. So, it really didn\'t matter that we had money saved. It was a relatively small start on our retirement, but even if it had been twice as large, I believe I would still be in the same financial state as I am in now. Except maybe a few more of these medical bills would be paid instead of piling up in my bill folder waiting until I have an extra dime.
deleted_user
deleted_user

I started work young and worked at the same place for 30 years and I was lucky to have had a pension plan there. I was able to retire at age 53 and stay home and take care of my husband when he became sick. I am so grateful for that. Ideally it is good to have a plan and start young. You don\'t have to sock every spare penny into it but contribute regularly. We still had a nice life not rich but were able to have a holiday every summer with the kids. I don\'t regret the fact that we set money aside for this. It is all about balance. About the lattee, I took coffee to work in a thermos because I added it all up and realized that I was spending $600.00 a year on coffee. I can think of things that are much more fun than having the luxury of buying coffee at work. Budjets are your friend.
deleted_user
deleted_user

Hi,
You made a great point. My husband retired and the next week he was told he has lung cancer and he lived 2 month. He had chemo treatment and all the thing that go with it he never enjoyed his retirement. He work 35 year at the post office all he got was chemo. I have learned balance is what needed. No I\'m not saying blow all your money but you should enjoy life because you dont know what is going to happen tomorrow. Thanks for your incite in life
Malia
ricebells
ricebells

We had a joint insurance and savings plan,we paid into it for 12 years,we never got to use it,when Frank died,l only got the insurance,none of the savings plan,because we were short by 10 months,because he died.We had plans to have a nice holiday,but he never made it.lt makes you wonder if you should bother sometimes.
Alice