Deep thoughts, getting things off my chest
Do you ever have someone's words repeat in your head over and over? Words you know are not true, but that plague your mind anyway? Sometimes for days, weeks, or even years?
This is an issue I have had most of my life. I know the Bible tells us how to deal with this, we are to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Here is that verse:
2 Corinthians 10:4-5 (KJV) "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; (5)Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"
So we can not only take our thougths captive, but we can also pull down strongholds.
Something that helps me to "Take those thoughts captive" is by writing about them. For me it's like purging them out of my system, and then they quit repeating in my head.
So that's what I am doing right now, purging my thoughts.
For years I was oppressed with reglion. Don't get me wrong, I am a very devout Christian, but I was also taught a lot of wrong doctrine, and I believed it. I was taught to be afraid of God. I'm not talking about a reverential fear, which is a good thing, but a terrifying fear. The kind of fear that makes you serve Him because you are afraid of His wrath, and not the respectful kind that makes you want to worship Him.
So I served God like a servant would serve a slave driver, out of fear of punishment, and not as you would serve someone you love, because you want to.
After I got sick, I was finaally instruduced to ministries that taught about God's love, goodness, and grace. I learned about various covenants God made with people in the Bible, and that He deals with mankind differently based on each covenant. The covenant God had with Abraham was a covenant of blessings only, and it was based on Abraham's faith, and not works. God never cursed Abraham even when he sinned, Abraham was always blessed. Even when he lied about Sarah being his sister, and even when he committed adultery, God still blessed him. But the covenant God had with Israel was a coveant of curses as well as blessings, and it was all based on their behavior, not their faith. You can read about the blessings AND the cursed of their covenant in Deuteronomy 28. But Hebrews 8:6 tells us that WE have a much better covenant than Israel had. A better covenant based on better promises.
Galatians 3:13 tells us that Jesus took all of the curses of the Law, or in other words all the curses that were a part of Israel's covenant were paid for through the cross, so that the blessings of the covenant God made with Abraham could be offered to the Gentiles, or the non-Israelite people, so they could be blessed also, just like Abraham was. I would encourage anyone that is not familiar with Galatians chapter 3 to read that whole chapter.
Anyway, it tells us that we can have the same blessings Abraham had through our faith. Abraham is our example of faith, and if we have the faith of Abraham, we can also have his blessings (verse 14). And if you read the chapter all the way to the end, it tells us in verse19 that the Law of Moses was only meant to be until the promised Seed (Jesus) came. Verse 23 tells us that before the way of faith (or justification through faith in Jesus was available). the Mosaic Law was our guardian. The Law kept us protected, until having faith in Jesus for salvation was revealed. But verse 25 tells us that we no longer need the Mosaic Law to guard us. Verse 29 says that if we are in Christ, we are now considered Abraham's seed, and we are heirs of the promise.
That doesn't mean we can live in sin. Chapter 5 of Galatians tells us that we shouldn't use our freedom from the Law to satify our sinful nature (chapter 5:13), but we should instead serve one another in love, because the whole Law of Moses could be summed up in ONE command, "Love your neighbor as yourself." (chapter 5:15). Now, instead of being guided or directed by the Law, we are now Led by the Holy Spirit (5:16 & 18). I believe this is all good news, but the majority of the church does not understand this.
To make a long really long story shorter, and try to wrap this up soon, I now have a much better understanding of God's love. His wrath that was released through the Law of Moses, and all of the curses that came with the Law,were satisfied through Jesus' blood sacrifice. He took all of the curses and the wrath of God for us. God sent Jesus to redeem us while we were still sinners (Romans 5:8). God doesn't love us because we are lovely, He loves us because He is love. And sending Jesus to redeem us was an expression of that love.
Of course we have to ACCEPT Jesus' sacrifice, and there will be a time period (or Day of Wrath) for those that do not accept it, but I believe right now we are in the era, or what Paul referred to as the "dispensation" of God's grace, in Ephesians 3:2 (KJV). I could go into more detail and use more scriptures, but this is getting very long. The book of Revelation goes into great detail about what will happen AFTER the rapture for those that did not accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. First there will be a 7year tribulation period for those that are still alive and remain on the earth. It will be a time of God revealing His wrath to those that were stubborn and refused to accept the truth, but for many it will also be a last chance to accept Jesus before the end of the earth comes. Then, after Jesus returns and sets things in order (Jesus will set things in order during the time of His Millenial Reign) but after that, there will be a Day of Judgement, and anyone dead or alive that didn't accept Jesus will be cast into the Lake of Fire.
But for now, I whole heartedly believe God is giving us grace, and holding off His wrath. I beleive He is giving us time to accept Jesus.
2 Peter 3:9 (N:T) "The Lord isnt' really being slow about his promise [to return], as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent." Yet the the church teaches that God is destroying people now, before they have a chance to repent, or to make others repent. (brackets mine)
Anyway, the real reason I am writing this is to get off of my chest the frustration of hearing over and over from people, that God is still judging us NOW, and that He puts sickness on people, or other evil things to teach us, and that ALL evil comes from God.
I can't stand it when people blame God for everything. Jesus came to redeem us from all curses, not to put them on us.
It infuriates me that the church as a whole is still teaching that nothing much happened when Jesus died, when He was whipped, bruised, crushed, and was cast into Hell. The majority of the church believes all that happened was that we no longer have to sacrifice animals anymore to cover our sins. They believe instead of sacrificing animals, we can now confess each individual sin, and if and only if we confess each sin we wil be forgiven. The main stream church believes that is all that Jesus' sacrifce did. And by the way, I believe Scripture teaches we must confess we are sinners in need of Savior, not each individual sin, or we are doomed. We don't even know every sin we have committed, so it would be impossible to confess them all. But anyway...
God is so much better than that. Jesus did so much more for us than just make a way for us not to have got sacrifice animals. He is so much more loving, and so much more merciful and kind than just that. He wants us blessed in every area of our lives, and that is precisely why Jesus came. John 10:10 tells us that Jesus came to give us a more abundant life, and it also says that the areas of our lives that rotten are from Satan. It says Satan is the thief that came to the earth to steal from us, to kill us, and to destroy us, not God. That verse tells us the evil and suffering are from Satan, but the church teaches us that God is responsible for all evil, and that God controls Satan. If God controls Satan, isn't God the one that is evil, and not Satan? Isn't Satan just doing what God wants him to?
My biggest question is:
Why would anyone ever want to serve a God who supposedly controls all things, and is the one behind rape, murder, human trafficking, child abuse, etc. I sure wouldn't. I believe people that blame God for all evil destroy people's faith, and turn many into atheists. I'm just so sick of hearing that God is the one causing the world to suffer. He isn't. People are evil, and do evil things. 2 Corthians 4:4 tells us that Satan is the God of this world, and 1 John 5:19 (NLT) says, "We know that we are the children of God, and that the world around us is under the control of the evil one." Those two verses tell us that Satan, and his followers are responsible for evil and corruption in the earth, not God.
It makes me so sad that the church has no idea what we have been redeemed from. Hopefully now I can put these thoughts to rest, and be more at peace.
I will just end with this verse:
3 John 1:3 "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as they soul prospereth." God is a good God that wants us blessed, He is not responsible for our problems. Jesus came to redeem us from all suffering.
If you read this, thank you for listening.
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Thank you for sharing. It is all about why you Follow God. If out of fear of punishment or death, then not Love. If out of the fear of being poor or struggling, then not out of Love. Following God out of Love, that means we can have nothing but His Love, and that is more than enough. It means we can suffer, yet still have His Love. We can be poor, yet still have His Love. We can face death, yet we still have His Love. It isn't a token love, but The Most Genuine Love, of One Who would die for you, because He did. Love is greater then Hope and Faith for a reason. Without Love, what point is the other two. I can hope something good happens, without love. I can have faith, that something good will happen, without love. Without Love, there is no God. God Is Love. He Loves us, even if homeless, alone, and stricken with multiple illnesses. His Love is showing caring to others who might suffer, even if we are. It isn't the cause of any disaster that matters, but the way we show love and caring to those who are hurting. Punishment isn't God's Way. His Way is correction and Mercy. He wants us to Love Him back. We choose to Follow Him or not. Those that don't have already chosen who is their god. That is the path to death and destruction, yet at their own hands by their own choice. Natural Disasters are just more proof that we aren't God. Humans might have inherited the Earth, but much of what we do just harms it, as we even do to one another. God Is Love. We must remember that. Thank you. God Bless.
Thanks for your thoughts RJW. I agree with you that it matters why we follow God. But I think it also matters who we tell people God is, and what His character is like. I think much of religion mischaracterizes God, and they don't understand the differences of covenants, or what Jesus paid for, that was my main point. I agree with you that God is love. I don't know you, but thank you for your response, and God bless you.
Hello healthseeker! Great journal entry. I have felt the very same way as you. I can only share what I believe concerning this issue in the church today. First when God created Adam, He created him with spiritual life or in God's image. Adam was full of light and life. God also gave us the power of choice, which allows us to love. God told Adam that on the day he ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, he would die. God is not a liar and when Adam ate the fruit, spiritual death entered into the world. So humanity or Adam's choice is what allowed darkness to plague human kind, not God. God did however immediately speak of Eve's seed, which is referencing Jesus, and that He (Jesus) would crush Satan's head. We can also see the fruit of the tree of knowledge immediately caused Adam to feel shame, which is not of God. Adam was ashamed because of his nakedness, so God made the first blood sacrifice and took the animal skins to cover Adam. Atonement was immediate, a demonstration of God's love to all of us who would believe in Christ. Now, for every old testament person who embraced the promise of Jesus to come, righteousness was laid on their account, however they could not receive a new nature because Jesus had not yet paid the price for them. Sin then progressed to the point where God in His mercy wiped out humanity with the exception of Noah so that the knowledge of God would once again fill the Earth. The covenant that God made with Abraham and the promise made was actually to Jesus. Abraham was the mediator of the promise God the Father made to the Son, Jesus that He would raise him from the dead, quicken Him back to life and through Him all nations would be blessed. The law (Moses) was then added to be a schoolmaster by which there were severe consequences if broken. The law could not change the sin nature within man, but revealed it. This is what Paul is talking about in many of his epistles. Romans 7 is not talking about a Christian having a bad hair day (in the flesh), but rather the position Paul was in, Paul was saying that when he was a Pharisee he found that no matter how badly he wanted to keep the righteousness of the law he was simply unable to. He found then the law of sin and death working in his members and he could not do what he wanted and that which he did not want to do, he found himself doing. In other words he was a slave to the nature of sin within him. At the end of Romans 7 he said " O' wretched man that I am, who will save me from the nature of sin?" Then answers his question by stating that Jesus saved him and he could now keep the righteousness of the law through the new divine nature he received when he was born again (in the spirit). This was not talking about the Holy Spirit but his human spirit, which freed him from the nature of sin. So we are no longer sinners, but children of God. As believers we must understand the work of Christ in us. Many will see this as being self-righteous, but it is not. To deny who we are in Christ, is false humility which is a form of pride, putting the work of the cross to an open shame. Paul then goes on in Romans 8 and says the Holy Spirit also helps our infirmities. Also means there was something else already there, right. That is our born again human spirit that freed us. This was the life that was in Jesus, that came from the Father, and Jesus gives to us when we simply believe the testimony God gave of the Son. So the ministry of the Holy Spirit is to reveal Christ to us and in us. I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I but Christ liveth in me, and the life I now live is by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave Himself for me. Now is the church teaching us how to turn ourselves over to the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of truth? Are we allowing ourselves to be taught by God or following the teachings and traditions of men? 1john says that if He abides in us, and we abide in Him then we ought to walk as He walked. The works Jesus and His disciples did are still relevant today. The new covenant that we are in is the same today as it was when Peter, John and Paul ministered after the resurrection of Christ. Most of the church today operate out of the knowledge of good and evil, and form judgements about God out of this knowledge and the actions of those who profess Christ, yet don't know Him. God absolutely does not desire sickness and disease or any of the biproducts of sin to plague His children. Yes, it is an issue of unbelief, like it or not. The good news is that as children of God we do not have to stay in defeat. He has given us keys to the kingdom, praying in tongues for personal edification (revelation gift), fasting, meditating God's word weather Logos or Rama, worship in spirit and truth and our confessions. Cast down every vain imagination that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. This speaks to disciplined thoughts. James said be swift to HEAR, slow to speak, and slow to wrath. Be swift to hear God's voice. Stop looking at ourselves from a carnal perspective, but look into the perfect law of liberty (divine nature) and the work of Christ that made us righteous in the eyes of our Father so that we may boldly run to Him in our time of need, rather then run away from Him because we make mistakes. No, grace does not mean I can do anything I want and be ok, grace means that I can be transformed from glory to glory in Christ.
Continue the good fight!
Thanks Irish, I understand all of that, and I agree with you. It's so refreshing to hear from someone that understands the difference in covenants, and that Jesus came to redeem us for God's wrath. The point of my post is that I'm just so tired of hearing from Christians that God is the one controlling everything, and we are under His judgement. I'm tired of hearing that God is the one behind Covid-19, God is the one behind rape, murder, etc. They say, "But take heart, because He has a purpose for it, because He is working all things together for good."
I believe people that say that are grossly misrepresenting Romans 8:28. The whole chapter was about choosing to be led by the Holy Spirit vs. being led by the flesh. Romans 8:6 tells us that when we are carnally minded it leads to death, but if we are spiritually minded it leads to life and peace. Verse 12 and 13 tell us that as new creatures in Christ we are no longer obligated to live by our flesh, but if we do, we will die. But the choice is ours, because it also says that if we live according to the Spirit, we will live. Verse 26 and 27 talk about praying in the Spirit, and if we do that, He will help us in our weaknesses and intercede for us in accordance with God's will. And I believe what Romans 8:28 is saying is that for those that love God, AND are living in accordance with His purposes ( or in other words those that are being led by the Holy Spirit) then things will work out for our good.
So the verse has two stipulations. ONE we must love God, and TWO we must be called according to His purpose. So anything that we do that is in line with what the Holy Spirit directs or leads us to do is going to work out for our good. It doesn't say anything and everything will always work out for our good. The chapter clarifies that if we are led by our flesh, then those actions will NOT work out for us. But people take this verse and say that anything that ever happens to a Christian is always going to work out for our good. That's not what it says at all. If we live in sin, or if we listen to our flesh, and not God, things will go badly. I'm just tired of people blaming God for all evil.
I agree with you that we have free will, and God gave us the power of choice. Thanks Irish