The following was shared by a member of lovingarms... I'm not sure what all I think... but I'm definitely doing some thinking and thought I'd like to share this... I'm not sure I'm ready yet to say thank you for the thorns... I do know that no one lives without any griefs or burdens... and perhaps the thorns do bring blessings... Elissa THORNS IN LIFE Sandra felt as low as the heels of her shoes when she pulled open the florist shop door, against a November gust of wind. Her life had been as sweet as a spring breeze and then, in the fourth month of her second pregnancy, a "minor" automobile accident stole her joy. This was Thanksgiving week and the time she should have delivered their infant son.  <> She grieved over their loss.  Troubles had multiplied.   Her husband's company "threatened" to transfer his job to a new location.  Her sister had called to say that she could not come for her long awaited holiday visit. What's worse, Sandra's friend suggested that Sandra's grief was a God-given path to maturity that would allow her to empathize with others who suffer. "She has no idea what I'm feeling," thought Sandra with a shudder. "Thanksgiving? Thankful for what?" she wondered. "For a careless driver whose truck was hardly scratched when he rear-ended her? For an airbag that saved her life, but took her child's?" "Good afternoon, can I help you?"  Sandra was startled by the approach of the shop clerk."I . . I need an arrangement," stammered Sandra.  <><>"For Thanksgiving? I'm convinced that flowers tell stories," she continued.  "Are you looking for something that conveys 'gratitude' this Thanksgiving?" "Not exactly!" Sandra blurted out. "In the last five months, everything that could go wrong has gone wrong."  Sandra regretted her outburst, and was surprised when the clerk said, "I have the perfect arrangement for you." <><> Then the bell on the door rang, and the clerk greeted the new customer, "Hi, Barbara, let me get your order." She excused herself and walked back to a small workroom, then quickly reappeared, carrying an arrangement of greenery, bows, and what appeared to be long-stemmed thorny roses. Except the ends of the rose stems were neatly snipped: there were no flowers.   "Do you want these in a box?" asked the clerk. Sandra watched - was this a joke? Who would want rose stems with no flowers! She waited for laughter, but neither woman laughed.  "Yes, please," Barbara replied with an appreciative smile. "You'd think after three years of getting the special, I wouldn't be so moved by its significance, but I can feel it right here, all  over again," she said, as she gently tapped her chest.    Sandra stammered, "Uh, that lady just left with . . . uh . . . she left with no flowers!" <><> "That's right," said the clerk. "I cut off the flowers. That's the 'Special'.  I call it the Thanksgiving Thorns Bouquet. Barbara came into the shop three years ago, feeling much as you do today," explained the clerk.  "She thought she had very little to be thankful for. She had just lost her father to cancer; the family business was failing; her son had gotten into drugs; and she was facing major surgery. <><> That same year I had lost my husband," continued the clerk. "For the first time in my life, I had to spend the holidays alone. I had no children, no husband, no family nearby, and too much debt to allow any travel." <><> "So what did you do?" asked Sandra. <><> "I learned to be thankful for thorns," answered the clerk quietly. "I've  always thanked God for the good things in my life and I never questioned Him why those good things happened to me, but when the bad stuff hit, I cried out, 'Why? Why me?!' It took time for me to learn that the dark times are important to our faith! I have always enjoyed the 'flowers' of my life, but it took the thorns to show me the beauty of God's comfort! You know, the Bible says that God comforts us when we're afflicted, and from His consolation we learn to comfort others."    Sandra sucked in her breath, as she thought about what her friend had tried to tell her. "I guess the truth is I don't want comfort. I've lost a baby and I'm angry with God."  Just then someone else walked in the shop. <><> "Hey, Phil!" the clerk greeted the balding, rotund man. <><> "My wife sent me in to get our usual Thanksgiving arrangement . . . twelve thorny, long-stemmed stems!" laughed Phil as the clerk handed him a tissue wrapped arrangement from the refrigerator. <><> "Those are for your wife?" asked Sandra incredulously. "Do you mind telling me why she wants a bouquet that looks like that?" <><> "Four yea rs ago, my wife and I nearly divorced," Phil replied. "After forty years, we were in a real mess, but with the Lord's grace and guidance, we trudged through problem after problem, the Lord rescued our marriage. Jenny here (the clerk) told me she kept a vase of rose stems to remind her of what she had learned from "thorny" times. That was good enough for me. I took home some of those stems. My wife and I decided to label each one for a specific "problem" and give thanks for what that problem taught us."  <><>As Phil paid the clerk, he said to Sandra, "I highly recommend the Special!"     "I don't know if I can be thankful for the thorns in my life" Sandra said to the clerk. "It's all too... fresh."     "Well," the clerk replied carefully, "my experience has shown me that the  thorns make the roses more precious. We treasure God's providential care more during trouble than at any other time. Remember that it was a crown of thorns that Jesus wore so we might know His love. Don't resent the thorns." <><><> Tears rolled down Sandra's cheeks. For the first time since the accident, she loosened her grip on her resentment.  "I'll take those twelve long-stemmed thorns, please," she managed to choke out.   "I hoped you would," said the clerk gently. "I'll have them ready in a minute."   "Thank you. What do I owe you?"    "Nothing. Nothing but a promise to allow God to heal your heart. The first year's arrangement is always on me." <><><> The clerk smiled and handed a card to Sandra. "I'll attach this card to your arrangement, but maybe you would like to read it first." <><><> It read: <><><> "My God, I have never thanked You for my thorns. I have thanked You a thousand times for my roses, but never once for my thorns. Teach me the glory of the cross I bear; teach me the value of my thorns. Show me that I have climbed closer to You along the path of pain. Show me that, through my tears, the colors of Your rainbow look much more brilliant." <><><>Praise Him for the roses; thank Him for the thorns.   God Bless all of you. Be thankful for all that the Lord does for you. <><><> "Live simply, love generously, care deeply, speak kindly, and leave the rest to God." <><><>We often try to fix problems with WD-40 and Duct tape. God did it with nails.

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It is my humble belief that God does not hand out the \"thorns\" in life...he did not have a hand in killing my child, nor the illnesses or disabilities of the other children in my life, thus I do not thank God for the thorns. While I might be saying a thank you for comfort, never will you hear me saying a thank you for the trials, for the trials involve pain and suffering inflicted upon the children whom I love. I\'ve always been grateful for the roses...I call them by name, they are my children. ((((hugs))))
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I too have a humble opinion. God is good. He gave us our children and the love that flows from them through us. The deaths, the illness, the disabilities are not God\'s work. He would never give us such precious gifts only to cause devastation.
I do thank God for my friends here who are also precious roses.

I do thank God for giving me something to do with the rest of my life in allowing me to befriend and care for the sick and the elderly.
You know What I think? I think that the love we generate here travels with us as a gift to God. I think that the miracle is that the love we generated here lives in those we have loved and passes on exponentially (sort of like a pay it forward type thing).
Of course no one knows for sure but I would rather err on the side of God.
God gave me Timmy and I learned a lot from him. I learned to smile at silly things. I learned happiness in yellow roses. I learned it\'s okay to tease people and laugh with them. I learned to say hello to strangers and I learned to take their hands when they were lost. I learned I wasn\'t anyone in the grand scheme of things just another traveller with a set of skills to help someone along the way. I learned that gave me as much satisfaction as it gave someone else a step up. I learned that from Timmy because I really enjoyed who he was and I met so many people through him...he was so exhuberant. No, losing Timmy wasn\'t a thorn....painful, but not a thorn. I guess I just take life as it comes and deal with what I have to as I have to. I try not to borrow trouble. I try to rant when I have to. I try to withdraw once in a while to see where my head is at. I am always thankful for everyone that would share any space in their lives with me. I don\'t think I see the absence as a lack of flowers...I see it as preparation of something else coming.

Love Ya, Kathy
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without the bad how can we know the true comforter and feel his grace even though to us the time was to short and we ask why ! why!but this has him hold us to his chest he knows we can;t do this alonenot losing a part of our heart that only he can help us with to breathe from one day to the next secondwithout god i could not breathe right now praying and holding you me and him love jody