The medication "discussion" or the mental illness "conversation" is an end-all argument.  There is no where to go once that is dropped in the mix...I mean think about it....if there is a problem, whatever it is, with functioning of some kind perhaps, or interaction with others or work or whatever...school?....it doesn't matter, when the concept of an illness, self-sabotage, "damage is done" or medication problems, is introduced it is all over as far as others being able to help you with the problem at hand....others that is except maybe a doctor....who you must PAY to talk to you about your problem at that point.  And he will be dealing first and foremost with your mental state of mind and perhaps illness before he or she, if ever, deals with your other problems.   Sure, I mean we, as a community perhaps suffering with various problems can support one another through the medication/mental illness conversation but in terms of actually offering solid non-biased real world advice to a "real-world" problem at hand, the whole solution to that problem gets shot off course.  For example, using a pool table to illustrate.... say the cue ball is the solution ball...and the problem ball (3 blue? I dunnosmiley-undecided.gif I don't play much pool, but whateversmiley-smile.gif!), anyway the Blue "3" problem ball is waiting to be sunk in the corner pocket, only a few inches from the hole....so someone comes along and wants to help you sink your problem blue ball....so they Whack the cue ball!!... the solution is coming but OH NO you drop the "discussion about mental illness/medication ball"  right inbetween!! (it's a number "5" Red Ball we'll say) onto the table, and the cue ball smacks in to it!! sending both balls off in to a different direction....the problem ball still sits there, waiting to be sunk, meanwhile the cue ball (the solution which might have "sunk" your problem) has gotten sent off course by the ball inbetween (the medication/mental illness discussion ball) and now both the solution and the medication/mental illness discussion have gone off, angling fast, straying off course in different directions while the problem ball just sits there, not being acted upon, waiting....waiting....waiting....it doesn't go away.  So when working on a problem of a life sort------the discussion about medications, mental illness, even lack of physical energy which although in reality all are causes, reasons, excuses, etc. as to why the problem is not getting solved.......are just THAT!!: Reasons, Whys, Excuses...they are not "act-on-able" upon!..The bottom line is that when the mental illness/medication conversation is introduced it takes you off the path to solving your problems.  Work on the solution to THE problem AT HAND....in spite of the desire to bring your other problems in to the mix....it's the only way I think to solve the problem of a lack of functioning, work, school or whatever...I know it's painful and the uncertainty is....well....unsettling to say the least, but i really believe that a strong focus and communication with others regarding solvable, act-on-able issues will better move us towards solutions.

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If that hadn\'t completely boggled my brain I may have had a resonable response to you. Since I have a vivid and over active imagination I was so lost in the thoughts of the balls on the table and where they were going when one slammed into another I lost the entire concept of the conversation. Oh thats right problem soving and getting off track by all the other conversational crap that gets thrown in when one really trys to intensly concentrate on the solution to the problem. Without using excuses, reasons or whys... I have no answers for you only a thousand more questions. But byintroducing those questions into this conversation I am taking away from the real attention seaker of the conversation...a solution..
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So in light of the rammbling I just did in your journal let me take myself back to my side of the ice and dip my feet in the nice cool water of defeat!!!
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When you deside to write these things do you actually follow them?
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yes, this is all true to an extint Harry, BUT i must say, just like the pool table....eventually all the other balls get sunk and you\'re left with the \"problem ball\" at hand...then it can be taken care of, soo, do not lose hope, solutions do and will come, you just have to be paitent, not every answer is a \"shot the sinks the ball in the pocket\", but...it\'s always \"one less ball on the table to that ulitmate goal\"!MUAH! luv ya Harry...hope i made as much since to you as you made to me! lol!
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very intersting thoughts. I\'m glad I came across. wish we could have an in person chat b/c I\'m too ADD right now to really get the full meaning
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interesting indeed. not sure what to comment here tho.