If communication was necessary, he would have left a message. Stay strong.

That's such a rough feeling. Whenever I see my NPS name in any documents, my body goes numb. I'm sorry he called you

Yes,the anxiety is sooooo intense.you will overcome it.stay strong

More texts and calls received all in the tone of "hey what's up," "just wanted to say hi," and the last one actually says "call me when you get a chance." Believe when I tell you that he stopped using niceties with me well over a year ago. Other than the occasional attempt to borrow more money from me after telling him no over and over, I was clearly devalued and discarded. He was on to another target and throwing all of his energy in that direction that the few times we did speak, civility was barely possible. He is up to something - I can feel it. I know this because these seeming nice gestures are completely out of character - unless he wants something. He is so self-centered that he really has bad phone etiquette. I have both witnessed and experienced this. When he is done talking he just hangs up. Doesn't matter if the other person is still talking. He mass calls - so if one person does not answer he quickly calls the next and the next. He never leaves a message and if you missed his call and then call him back if he already reached someone else, he won't answer or call you back (until he's bored again of course). He's so transparent. I'm sure something must be "off" with his new supply. Maybe she's finally waking up.

The selfishness of the disordered is just breath-taking. Nary a thought of how distressing this activity might be to his targets. You may have to ditch the number.

I think phone etiquette is lacking with most P's. Mine would call and if I didn't answer he just kept hitting redial until I did. I took that as a sign of his interest in me...ha! (stupid!) My friend once lost it on me because we were driving back from camping, talking as I drove, the weather was bad so I had to really concentrate on driving. He called. I didn't answer. And he just kept calling and calling and calling until finally she looked at me and said "Are you going to answer that?" And I said "no I'm driving, he can wait". And she started talking about how he calls and calls and calls and doesn't stop, doesn't care what I'm doing or if I'm busy etc. I told her he worries about me if I don't answer (justify justify) and she totally lost it and started screaming at me "He's not worried about you, he's trying to control you. He needs to know what you'e doing and who you';re with at all times! That's not love, it's control!" Of course she was right. I calmly listened to her yell at me for awhile, calmly responding that I understood where she was coming from. She was trying to show concern for me but I don't think she realized at the time that showing concern doesn't involve yelling. But still she was right.

You are right too...he is up to something or wants something. He's fishing...for something. Just keep ignoring him and you're all good!

Phone etiquette--that term applied to P's makes me laugh. Mine would often call both of my phones every 10 minutes all night long after having started a fight over nothing and exhausted me to the point I stopped talking to him. After months of this behavior, I turned the phones off. Problem is, I have a bad memory and would forget to turn them back on. Eventually, I learned that he had been cheating on me through 5 month of this behavior. When I talked to the OW, she described him calling her every 10 minutes all night, too. I asked to see his phone records. sure enough. he made a call every 5 minutes all night long for many months. He would call me, her, me, her, me, her, me, her. You think the man is obsessed with you and it has nothing to do with that. It has to do with the fact he is an empty black hole and need human lifeblood to feed on.

He also would text and call nonstop if my sister or daughter were visiting, all of them from out of state. One time I was staying in a hotel room with my mother and sister for 4 nights when we were in our hometown for my father's memorial service. He e-mailed me every moment from early evening through into the a.m. This was during the time of the OW. (but I didn't know yet) He had used to always be online with me until 1 am, but since starting up with the OW, he had been routinely ending our conversation at 9 pm and having cyber or phone sex with her until 1 am. (I did not do that with him as I find that behavior trashy.) But while I was with my family, he stayed online with me until 1 am, forgoing sex with the OW. The day I got back home, I didn't hear one word from him. Not all day, not all evening. He was so jealous of anyone getting any of my attention except him, he would sacrifice his "dirty time" to hoard my attention. As soon as I was free, it was time for the OW.

It's so amazing that this resonates with some of you. They really do all fall from the same tree. They are so warped. Back when I was in the yo-yo stage with him he would call and want to get together so we would and he would still be busy with his phone and of course he was secretive about it. Taking the phone in the bathroom or outside and sleeping with it in his pocket or under the pillow. Their behavior turns you into a crazy person. I remember wanting desperately to somehow get his phone and go through it. I'd never been like that before.

With the phone etiquette, even one of his guy friends complained to me about him. Instead of leaving a message he just keeps calling. It's like "how dare you not answer when I call." But when the person he was so desperately trying to get a hold of calls him back, HE doesn't answer. With everything they do they say you, your time, and whatever you may be doing are not important. If we were out somewhere and he was ready to go - it was time to go. Nevermind that you were in the middle of a conversation with someone or still finishing your drink, food whatever. He always had a reason...he would say he was having anxiety or other ailment but really it was just about control.

I'm standing my ground but admit that I am curious what he would have to say after all this time and if as I suspect he has D&D'd another victim, what he would say about it. I can't help wondering if I would earful of his crazy rhetoric about what horrible injury or injustice did she inflict upon him, how she fall beneath his insane standards, what she didn't or wouldn't do for him. I'd love to tell him that he'll never find someone that will "fit" because that person would be more damaged that he is.