I would think it wasn't so much what as much as getting really far back in their search. My guess.

I knew my grandpa was born and raised on Cherokee reservation, but there's not much paperwork to go very far in research. We can get to my great great grandparents and that's as far as birth certificates go. Life was hard on the trails so many didn't make it.

i found out how my dad ended up with Frances for middle name

i don't know how but i ended with french blood that only comes from Montreal Canada , where my relative are came from , i think im might be product of rape there was a divide in family this might of been why , ill never know the truth id be happy to know who the other part of me is ,
sorry to be so blunt

Min-was the Dad with Frances your biological father? Bc if you though you were the product of a rape? There is genetic testing now for the fathers ancestry. It is interesting to say the least.

My Mother's family is from the Cherokee Nation out of Oklahoma ( maternal side ) and her Dad is from Great Britain. We found out my great, great, great Grandfather from Great Britain had 24 children with 2 wives. Interesting. His first and second wife both died in child birth.

My Father's Dad came from France and was murdered when he was 15 months old in Trail Oregon. People didn't like 6'5" Frenchmen that worked on the railroad and made boot leg whiskey. Found a lot of info. My Dad didn't realize his birthday, his Dad's and Grandpa's were all Dec. 17 bc they were dead when he was a lad and never thought about it.

Minnie have you checked your birth certificate? back in the day a man's name had to be on them. It's really sad no one will tell you.

Moonie my paternal side is Cherokee and my maternal side is GB. My GM had 14 children poor woman! she always looked it too.

OMG-I am related to a deranged ostrich???? Demand genetic testing........................