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"Positive" memories - article to help un
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/pathological-relationships/201203/all-memory-is-not-created-equal-positive-memory-seepage
Hi! I am on my way out to get ice cream, but posting this as I saw it the other day and relevant ... I skimmed through it, honestly, but maybe some helpful stuff.
Pathological Relationships
Dealing With a Problem Partner
by Sandra L. Brown, M.A.
All Memory Is Not Created Equal—Positive Memory Seepage
Intrusive thoughts are not just bad thoughts or flashbacks.
Published on March 6, 2012 by Sandra Brown, M.A. in Pathological Relationships
Intrusive thoughts are associated with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, as well as other emotional trauma disorders. Many survivors say that the most painful memories are not the intrusive thoughts of all the bad 'stuff,' or even the violence—what is most painful is the intrusive thoughts of good memories.
Intrusive thoughts are not just bad thoughts or flashbacks. They can be intrusive from positive memories as well. Positive memories are embedded with deep emotional and psychological 'meaning.' The meaning of the relationship, various happy moments, the deep feelings of attachment, fantastic sex—can all be power packed into positive memories. Positive memories are also embedded with all the sights, sounds, smells, sensations, feelings, and the associated meaning of the events and remembrances of a happier time. The positive memories can also be tied up with a ribbon of fantasy and romanticized feelings. That's a lot of 'power' packed into a few positive memories, and has the TNT emotional factor that overrides your 'stay-away-from-him' resolve.
All memories are not stored the same way. I've talked about this before in our books. Positive memory is stored differently in the brain, and is more easily accessible than some of the bad memories. Many traumatic memories are stored in another part of the brain that makes them harder to access. Sometimes the more traumatic they are, the harder it is to remember.
Unfortunately, what you might want to remember most is the bad part of the relationship, so it motivates you to stay away from it. But instead, you are murky, and are not always fresh in your mind about 'why' you should be avoiding the pathological relationship. What IS easy to remember is all the positive memories. In fact, what has become intrusive is positive memory seepage. This is when all the good times and the associated 'senses' (taste, touch, smell, etc.) are flooding your mind. You easily remember the good times and easily forget the bad times - all based on how, and where these types of memories are stored in the brain. You may NEED the bad memories for emotional reinforcement, however all you REMEMBER are the good ones.
That which is held internally is amplified. Almost like putting it under a magnifying glass - the feelings, memories, senses—are all BIGGER and STRONGER when the memory simply rolls around in your head. It's a lot like a pinball machine—memories pinging and ponging off of the internal elements. The more it pings and pongs, the stronger the memory moves around the mind.
Memories kept in the mind also take on surreal-like qualities. Certain parts are like a movie—fantasy based and romanticized. The positive memories are dipped in crystallized sugar and become tantalizing treats, instead of toxic treats! While engaged in this positive memory seepage - it doesn't feel like you are indulging your self in toxic memories. It feels like you are trying to 'process' the relationship - 'Why did we do this?' 'Did he say that?' 'Why was it like that then, but it's like this now?' It feels like what you are trying to do is to sort out the relationship. But all the sorting of this dirty laundry still leaves the same amount of clothing piled in your head. You are just moving the same shirt from pile to pile—but it's all the same dirty laundry. Nothing is getting cleaned up.
Positive memory seepage, as intrusive thought, is a big contributor to the cognitive dissonance women feel in the aftermath of these relationships. Cognitive Dissonance (or C.D. as we refer to it) is the difficulty of trying to hold two opposing thoughts or beliefs at the same time—it's usually something like, 'He's good" AND "He's bad'—'How can he be good AND bad? Just trying to resolve that particular thought can leave women's minds tangled up for years. C.D. can single handedly take women down—it can cause her to be unable to concentrate, work, sleep, eat, or function overall. It's like the image of the devil sitting on one shoulder, and the angel sitting on the other shoulder, and they are both whispering in your ear. That's exactly what C.D. is like—trying to decide which thing you are going to believe - that he's bad for you, or that he's good for you.
Positive memory seepage produces intrusive thoughts. Intrusive thoughts, especially about positive memories, produce cognitive dissonance. These emotional processes feed each other like a blood-induced shark fest. It's one of the single reasons women don't disengage from the relationship, heal, or return to a higher level of functioning. Now that we've identified 'what' is really at the heart of the aftermath of symptoms, we know that treating C.D. is really the most important recovery factor in pathological love relationships. It's why we have developed various tools to manage it—Maintaining Mindfulness in the Midst of Obsession, e-book and two CD's, as well as our retreats, 1:1s, etc. The quickest way to recover is by learning to manage the intrusive thoughts and cognitive dissonance. A managed mind makes life feel much more manageable too!
Hi! I am on my way out to get ice cream, but posting this as I saw it the other day and relevant ... I skimmed through it, honestly, but maybe some helpful stuff.
Pathological Relationships
Dealing With a Problem Partner
by Sandra L. Brown, M.A.
All Memory Is Not Created Equal—Positive Memory Seepage
Intrusive thoughts are not just bad thoughts or flashbacks.
Published on March 6, 2012 by Sandra Brown, M.A. in Pathological Relationships
Intrusive thoughts are associated with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, as well as other emotional trauma disorders. Many survivors say that the most painful memories are not the intrusive thoughts of all the bad 'stuff,' or even the violence—what is most painful is the intrusive thoughts of good memories.
Intrusive thoughts are not just bad thoughts or flashbacks. They can be intrusive from positive memories as well. Positive memories are embedded with deep emotional and psychological 'meaning.' The meaning of the relationship, various happy moments, the deep feelings of attachment, fantastic sex—can all be power packed into positive memories. Positive memories are also embedded with all the sights, sounds, smells, sensations, feelings, and the associated meaning of the events and remembrances of a happier time. The positive memories can also be tied up with a ribbon of fantasy and romanticized feelings. That's a lot of 'power' packed into a few positive memories, and has the TNT emotional factor that overrides your 'stay-away-from-him' resolve.
All memories are not stored the same way. I've talked about this before in our books. Positive memory is stored differently in the brain, and is more easily accessible than some of the bad memories. Many traumatic memories are stored in another part of the brain that makes them harder to access. Sometimes the more traumatic they are, the harder it is to remember.
Unfortunately, what you might want to remember most is the bad part of the relationship, so it motivates you to stay away from it. But instead, you are murky, and are not always fresh in your mind about 'why' you should be avoiding the pathological relationship. What IS easy to remember is all the positive memories. In fact, what has become intrusive is positive memory seepage. This is when all the good times and the associated 'senses' (taste, touch, smell, etc.) are flooding your mind. You easily remember the good times and easily forget the bad times - all based on how, and where these types of memories are stored in the brain. You may NEED the bad memories for emotional reinforcement, however all you REMEMBER are the good ones.
That which is held internally is amplified. Almost like putting it under a magnifying glass - the feelings, memories, senses—are all BIGGER and STRONGER when the memory simply rolls around in your head. It's a lot like a pinball machine—memories pinging and ponging off of the internal elements. The more it pings and pongs, the stronger the memory moves around the mind.
Memories kept in the mind also take on surreal-like qualities. Certain parts are like a movie—fantasy based and romanticized. The positive memories are dipped in crystallized sugar and become tantalizing treats, instead of toxic treats! While engaged in this positive memory seepage - it doesn't feel like you are indulging your self in toxic memories. It feels like you are trying to 'process' the relationship - 'Why did we do this?' 'Did he say that?' 'Why was it like that then, but it's like this now?' It feels like what you are trying to do is to sort out the relationship. But all the sorting of this dirty laundry still leaves the same amount of clothing piled in your head. You are just moving the same shirt from pile to pile—but it's all the same dirty laundry. Nothing is getting cleaned up.
Positive memory seepage, as intrusive thought, is a big contributor to the cognitive dissonance women feel in the aftermath of these relationships. Cognitive Dissonance (or C.D. as we refer to it) is the difficulty of trying to hold two opposing thoughts or beliefs at the same time—it's usually something like, 'He's good" AND "He's bad'—'How can he be good AND bad? Just trying to resolve that particular thought can leave women's minds tangled up for years. C.D. can single handedly take women down—it can cause her to be unable to concentrate, work, sleep, eat, or function overall. It's like the image of the devil sitting on one shoulder, and the angel sitting on the other shoulder, and they are both whispering in your ear. That's exactly what C.D. is like—trying to decide which thing you are going to believe - that he's bad for you, or that he's good for you.
Positive memory seepage produces intrusive thoughts. Intrusive thoughts, especially about positive memories, produce cognitive dissonance. These emotional processes feed each other like a blood-induced shark fest. It's one of the single reasons women don't disengage from the relationship, heal, or return to a higher level of functioning. Now that we've identified 'what' is really at the heart of the aftermath of symptoms, we know that treating C.D. is really the most important recovery factor in pathological love relationships. It's why we have developed various tools to manage it—Maintaining Mindfulness in the Midst of Obsession, e-book and two CD's, as well as our retreats, 1:1s, etc. The quickest way to recover is by learning to manage the intrusive thoughts and cognitive dissonance. A managed mind makes life feel much more manageable too!
Interesting article. Thanks, Dadda.
The article sure does help. I'm in touch with some childhood trauma, I believe, of the time when my father died. I had a panic attack during a nap today. I woke up with tremors. Did some tapping (EFT), ate some protein, made a phone call. Being alone has always brought up a lifetime(s) of fear.
Yes. I've been remembering the good stuff. I'm grieving. I tell myself that I'll have even better, with a whole person. If I read too much about N's, I get really discouraged thinking that all men are a threat (sensitivity of an empath). Little Me is so sad ... I don't like to remind myself of the bad stuff, because I don't like to feel bad. It may be necessary. Thanks for the article. xo
I guess I am trying to be philosophical about the memories and stuff, too. As well as "trusting myself". Often, articles and books are helpful, but I remember checking out a book back in 8th grade about sleep. Imagine my surprise when I read the (fairly recent book,at that time) chapter on dreams and I "learned" that people dream in black and white. I KNEW better, no matter what any author or scientific expert had to say.
I read an article about how "smart phones" are now dumbing people down; we rely on technology without questioning. I use a GPS, but I also look at a map before I leave and take one with me; I've watched too many temper tantrums when the ATM breaks down ...
We learn things from experience; often, though, memories are not emotionally charged and we have no problem examining (previous) expectations vs. results obtained to change strategy, recognize a "fluke" situation and on and on ...
I am really starting to believe that under the actual conscious experience, there is a part of us that, even ignoring red flags and all, recognizes "something" does not add up. I remember there being a time when I really started withdrawing from people and activities I previously enjoyed and was always tired. Didn't make sense, because all the props in my life were positive and the veneer of life was, too. Maybe that withdrawal was necessary to give me more time and space to devote to thinking, paying attention to my thoughts and also, get away from less important distractions?
My husband's sisiter is married to a guy who is well known to have cheated continuously through their marriage. She acts like they are so in love. I don't know if she believes her own PR, but if a person didn't know anything about it all, their life probably looks decent enough (although her "happiness" is a little forced, if that makes sense. It scares me to think that you could actually "turn off" your own internal firewall or burglar alarm, whatever you want to think about it as and LEAVE IT OFF!! Yipes .... oh, and by the way, her husband, who is only 50is and extreme healthy otherwise (no drugs, drinking, smoking and jogs, raquetball, etc) has a heart problem so severe that he is pretty much relegated to the couch these days. My personal thought is that the human life is not designed to tolerate "being a lie".
I don't like feeling bad either, but it beats some of the alternatives! Plus, I think back to those guys WAY back before I had even an inkling of a clue what relationships were about (not that I know it all or even half!). Oh, I was SO in love, eternal love, at 15 & 16. And the scraps of my old journals prove it - oh, I wished I had no feelings, I felt I was being ripped apart and torn in pieces. But today, I am thankful I didn't end up with someone I thought was so "hot" back then; I recognize some issues that would have assured miserable times ... I can also laugh at it all, but back then, oh it was a completely different ball of wax.
I do think the pain is healthy though. I don't think that we are supposed to make commitments and then tear them to shreds, especially on a whim. I think that the "natual state" of humans is to be able to trust - that we are designed to be truthful. And my guess is that is one important reason the pain is so intense. Even though society and books say we all lie and very frequently (and say it's "necessary" to do so), I don't think it is true or necessary.to be a liar. And finally and "of course", pain can accompany some very wonderful things ... like childbirth. And though normal people don't "do" so much anymore, things like building a house or a garden, which used to be survival skills ... even just doing repairs and stuff is painful. But oh, so very sweet when success and rest come!
I have a client who has lived all over the world. She's now traveling from Latin America to the Middle East, taking her new profession, teaching others, without pay. She had feelings/issues about not being 'where she should be' in her career. She was comparing herself. We compare ourselves to our peers, and we compare ourselves to others' expectations, ideals, etc. I've learned to compare myself to myself. I suggested that she didn't realize it, but she was uncovering a lot of material about herself as she is in this process. It quickly became clearer. We hold ourselves to our own ideas. Withdrawal from the usual, or expected, or normal, is another branch to be climbed, and we can sit on that branch and look around us and see where we want to change ... or not. I think of an artist ... withdrawing to his studio to allow a masterpiece to escape from his soul for his canvas. Maybe no one will see him for weeks, or months, and he will be lost in the artistic realm ... he's creating, processing, going within to see more. Looks weird to some, even to self at times, but our higher self knows what we need. It's sort of like a vacation, in a familiar place, home and self. :-)
He'd walk out when angry, I'd be a step ahead of him, see his anger, and tell him to leave.
If he was abusive to me, I'd say "yes, I know ... this was never love. I was your whore and you were mine. It was great, but I don't want anymore."
He didn't try to make me jealous, because he would have lost me.
I started asking him for money, and told him, "I want a partner who will help me financially."
When he'd go off on his attention getting talking stuff, I'd roll my eyes, or joke about it. In the last days, I said, "I really don't care about that right now, I have more important things to think about."
I took his power away, more and more. When I was still fighting him, in the push-pull with him, it stayed instense and was hard-to-impossible to break up. When I started to focus on myself, my healing, my wants, my truth, I disarmed him. I do believe that this time, he will not bother me.
My greatest tools were EFT, and Paul McKenna CD's ... and my willingness to lose him.
Hugs,
T.
And even better, I'm getting over him. I have my moments, but I want him less and less.
HUGS, BACK! xo
this ti shall pass. It is just part of the healing and grief process. Imagine hating a man so much that to mention his name would bring on rage, then imagine having to smile and be kind as you explain to his young kids that he will never be moving back into the same house that you are in!!!
The day I exploded and started yelling and swearing (I worked in pre K for 11 yrs so my language is pretty G rated) my friend just smiled and said it is about time you got here!
SO, to you my friend.... It is about time you got here!