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On being a mother - a song
dadda11o
There is a Celine Dion song that my younger daughter used to love and when I hear it (My Heart Will Go On) I can think of nothing and nobody else but her ... as a small and trusting but already strong child. Through all this chaos, and the times when I have said more than I should have or the wrong thing entirely, I have tried but there is NO way to explain to our children, not only through their defenses, but because of their love and trust in other relatives, who may be pretty toxic. So as they are now struggling to make their way into the world, I ran across this song and realize it "works both ways"; I was crying and seeing it from my point of view ... and hoping that it gets closer to this again before that day comes and realizing I must trust God for much of that ... but feeling more than I can. My only sadness is having learned even more than ever how much of separating me from my children was deliberate and diametrically opposed to their interests. But God sometimes gives the enemy all the advantages but still, in the end, the enemy loses.
Thanks for all the great encouragement lately in this regard, all of you who have provided it. I KNOW I can't "enable" and I can't try to "run their lives". I've had my opportunity, such as it has been. And I am going to trust that their foundation ... the first years that they did spend with me, will be an anchor and refuge through anything and they WILL return to that and build on it at whatever point in time. And I WILL always be there for them. And thanks again for all the suggestions and encouragement to see and respond past the pain ... I'm really starting to understand the "poison" and the "traps" even though I don't always respond as quickly or as well as I would like to. But I know overall, I'm doing better. And probably a very far cry from those who do not have such caring people as I have found myself surrounded and held up by.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I3TxyYDcSw&feature=relmfu
Goodbye's (The Saddest Word) lyrics
Mamma
You gave life to me
Turned a baby into a lady
Mamma
All you had to offer
Was the promise of a lifetime of love
Now I know
There is no other
Love like a mother's love for her child
And I know
A love so complete
Someday must leave
Must say goodbye
Goodbye's the saddest word I'll ever hear
Goodbye's the last time I will hold you near
Someday you'll say that word and I will cry
It'll break my heart to hear you say goodbye
Mamma
You gave love to me
Turned a young one into a woman
Mamma
All I ever needed
Was a guarantee of you loving me
'Cause I know
There is no other
Love like a mother's love for her child
And it hurts so
That something so strong
Someday will be gone, must say goodbye
Goodbye's the saddest word I'll ever hear
Goodbye's the last time I will hold you near
Someday you'll say that word and I will cry
[From: http://www.elyrics.net ]
It'll break my heart to hear you say goodbye
But the love you gave me will always live
You'll always be there every time I fall
You are to me the greatest love of all
You take my weakness and you make me strong
And I will always love you 'til forever comes
And when you need me
I'll be there for you always
I'll be there your whole life through
I'll be there this I promise you, Mamma
Mamma, I'll be
I'll be your beacon through the darkest nights
I'll be the wings that guide your broken flight
I'll be your shelter through the raging storm
And I will love you 'till forever comes
Goodbye's the saddest word I'll ever hear
Goodbye's the last time I will hold you near
Someday you'll say that word and I will cry
It'll break my heart to hear you say goodbye
'Till we meet again...
Until then...
Goodbye
Thanks for all the great encouragement lately in this regard, all of you who have provided it. I KNOW I can't "enable" and I can't try to "run their lives". I've had my opportunity, such as it has been. And I am going to trust that their foundation ... the first years that they did spend with me, will be an anchor and refuge through anything and they WILL return to that and build on it at whatever point in time. And I WILL always be there for them. And thanks again for all the suggestions and encouragement to see and respond past the pain ... I'm really starting to understand the "poison" and the "traps" even though I don't always respond as quickly or as well as I would like to. But I know overall, I'm doing better. And probably a very far cry from those who do not have such caring people as I have found myself surrounded and held up by.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I3TxyYDcSw&feature=relmfu
Goodbye's (The Saddest Word) lyrics
Mamma
You gave life to me
Turned a baby into a lady
Mamma
All you had to offer
Was the promise of a lifetime of love
Now I know
There is no other
Love like a mother's love for her child
And I know
A love so complete
Someday must leave
Must say goodbye
Goodbye's the saddest word I'll ever hear
Goodbye's the last time I will hold you near
Someday you'll say that word and I will cry
It'll break my heart to hear you say goodbye
Mamma
You gave love to me
Turned a young one into a woman
Mamma
All I ever needed
Was a guarantee of you loving me
'Cause I know
There is no other
Love like a mother's love for her child
And it hurts so
That something so strong
Someday will be gone, must say goodbye
Goodbye's the saddest word I'll ever hear
Goodbye's the last time I will hold you near
Someday you'll say that word and I will cry
[From: http://www.elyrics.net ]
It'll break my heart to hear you say goodbye
But the love you gave me will always live
You'll always be there every time I fall
You are to me the greatest love of all
You take my weakness and you make me strong
And I will always love you 'til forever comes
And when you need me
I'll be there for you always
I'll be there your whole life through
I'll be there this I promise you, Mamma
Mamma, I'll be
I'll be your beacon through the darkest nights
I'll be the wings that guide your broken flight
I'll be your shelter through the raging storm
And I will love you 'till forever comes
Goodbye's the saddest word I'll ever hear
Goodbye's the last time I will hold you near
Someday you'll say that word and I will cry
It'll break my heart to hear you say goodbye
'Till we meet again...
Until then...
Goodbye
dadda, I keep praying your relationships with your daughters is restored. Stay strong, pray, have faith. They will be back. It took my oldest daughter 2 years before she came around, but things are good now. Be patient.
I was reading about the divorce rate "50%" and how that is NOT accurate ... it is actually much lower, especially factoring in certain things which make it impossible to do "pure math" ... so people are wrong when they think that half of all marriages end in divorce. And I am not knocking anyone or anything, just Ns because they ACT based on "approval". But I am glad to know, within myself, statistically speaking, that ex is among an elite and much smaller group than he realizes ... failures who "can't".
And the associated myth, that children are "resilient". Children are "resilient" because they HAVE TO BE. They have no choice. I think everyone on here who is a mother KNOWS their children go through at least some kind of hell with the breakup of their family. And our demeanor and behavior helps or hinders their adjustment. But it is also that continued recognition ... that they are children and that if adults behave as adults, children wouldn't go through half the hell they do ...
It sort of blows my mind on one level to know that I am a good mother and yet the N mothers in his family all got to raise their children, such as it was (not too many of them are exactly living a "life") and that it where it is a punch, a low blow. But I recognize that their maliciousness and poison ... they didn't EVER love my daughters, because they NEVER cared about the consequences of their behavior to me. That clinched it for me. I am just sorry that I did not know more then or have people supporting me, for real, back then. And everything is showing me that social services, mental healt, legal ... there are a lot of idiots out there who add to the damage. The children pay for the idiots, the "experts" who think, condescendingly, that they "know it all" and think they have mom summed up as a loser and liar, an addict and crazy lady. so all that is roiling through my head and heart these past few days ... how much little things can hurt.
They can also help and they do.
It is completely understandable that you are bombarded with old memories and fears regarding your relationships with your daughters. Estrangement hurts. You hurt for them and you hurt for yourself. You hurt for what has happened and you hurt for what you are missing and what seems like it will never happen. Let the pain wash through you and over you. Accept that it is normal but don't let it rest inside of you, let it seep away and lessen with time. I wish I could say that all will be corrected in time as your daughter learn to stand on their own feet and accept the responsibilites of adulthood. I wish I could say that they will come back to you and learn to love you even more . . . a deeper love based on mutual respect. I can't say with certainty that that will happen. Yet, I believe it will. I have to believe that Karma/the Universe/God evens things out in time, especailly for those who try so hard to do live consistently with compassion. Mourn, Dadda, but also focus forward . . . making yourself stronger, happier, more peaceful . . . so that when your daughters do come back to you . . . they will glory in your presence.