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http://lightshouse.org/lights-blog/black-white-thinkers-all-nothing-thinking#axzz2F0CBq1lw
This site has a lot of info about different aspects of the cluster B and toxic types of personalities and families. It looked like it would appeal to junior high to adult. For now, here's some thoughts on black and white thinking ... I just got off Livelife's post and wondered all of a sudden, can we still even say that?
Sorry, I always write "None" under "other" in the race box .. come to the conclusion gov't more interested in people "as" race so I got rid of mine. But back to the subject:
Black and White Thinkers
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black and white thinkers thinking people
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Black-and-white thinkers can be rigid, intolerant, frustrating, and even toxic.
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The world of relationships is full-color, including every shade of gray. Every person is unique, with his or her own interests, quirks and personal preferences about the way things are done.
But black-and-white thinkers have a kind of metaphorical color-blindness. They don’t see the value of the subtle differences most people recognize as important, even crucial to understanding and functionality.
Black-and-white thinkers are not flexible, open to change, easy-going or highly cooperative, and their ability to compromise – an important skill in relationships – is low.
In terms of hoping for more open-minded thinking, don’t expect a miracle when dealing with the majority of black-and-white thinkers. Many of the disorders that make a person prone to this kind of thinking are not highly treatable, so depending on the cause, the difficult person you’re dealing with may not be especially able to change their behavior.
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Black-and-white thinking is common in people with obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, and in individuals with autism spectrum disorder.
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Ranking the disorders in terms of how they each respond to treatment, the most treatable is borderline personality disorder, followed by obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, then narcissistic personality disorder (which is not highly treatable) and finally autism spectrum disorder, which provides the very lowest response to any attempts at treatment (many would say none).
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Black-and-white thinkers may:
Be rigid and stubborn
Have difficulty seeing the value in viewpoints other than their own
Have difficulty empathizing properly
Be controlling and rejecting
May be impossible to please
Be sticklers about details
Have all-or-nothing tendencies
Think their way is the only acceptable way
Dislike changes in plans
Not like sharing power
Hold jobs for which control and/or details are a central theme, such as management or engineering
See everything as either all-good or all-bad
Have little to no creativity
Overvalue past patterns, procedures, obedience and traditions
Have tremendous difficulty letting go
Be demanding and fault-finding
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While autism spectrum disorders do not make people toxic, many of the other disorders – the personality disorders listed – definitely can.
Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder (This is not the same as OCD).
Too detail-oriented, Perfectionistic, Doesn’t Delegate, Keeps Old Items, Rigid and Closed-Minded.
Borderline Personality Disorder
Unstable & angry, fears abandonment, self-harm, suicidality, feels empty, “splitting” (a form of black/white thinking).
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Self-centered, critical, demands admiration, unempathic, entitled, arrogant and egotistical, envious, grandiose.
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Join us next time — we’re talking about what happens when you don’t ask for enough from others.
More Here: http://lightshouse.org/lights-blog/black-white-thinkers-all-nothing-thinking#ixzz2F0bMDnsd
This site has a lot of info about different aspects of the cluster B and toxic types of personalities and families. It looked like it would appeal to junior high to adult. For now, here's some thoughts on black and white thinking ... I just got off Livelife's post and wondered all of a sudden, can we still even say that?
Sorry, I always write "None" under "other" in the race box .. come to the conclusion gov't more interested in people "as" race so I got rid of mine. But back to the subject:
Black and White Thinkers
10 Comments
black and white thinkers thinking people
.
Black-and-white thinkers can be rigid, intolerant, frustrating, and even toxic.
.
The world of relationships is full-color, including every shade of gray. Every person is unique, with his or her own interests, quirks and personal preferences about the way things are done.
But black-and-white thinkers have a kind of metaphorical color-blindness. They don’t see the value of the subtle differences most people recognize as important, even crucial to understanding and functionality.
Black-and-white thinkers are not flexible, open to change, easy-going or highly cooperative, and their ability to compromise – an important skill in relationships – is low.
In terms of hoping for more open-minded thinking, don’t expect a miracle when dealing with the majority of black-and-white thinkers. Many of the disorders that make a person prone to this kind of thinking are not highly treatable, so depending on the cause, the difficult person you’re dealing with may not be especially able to change their behavior.
.
Black-and-white thinking is common in people with obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, and in individuals with autism spectrum disorder.
.
Ranking the disorders in terms of how they each respond to treatment, the most treatable is borderline personality disorder, followed by obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, then narcissistic personality disorder (which is not highly treatable) and finally autism spectrum disorder, which provides the very lowest response to any attempts at treatment (many would say none).
.
Black-and-white thinkers may:
Be rigid and stubborn
Have difficulty seeing the value in viewpoints other than their own
Have difficulty empathizing properly
Be controlling and rejecting
May be impossible to please
Be sticklers about details
Have all-or-nothing tendencies
Think their way is the only acceptable way
Dislike changes in plans
Not like sharing power
Hold jobs for which control and/or details are a central theme, such as management or engineering
See everything as either all-good or all-bad
Have little to no creativity
Overvalue past patterns, procedures, obedience and traditions
Have tremendous difficulty letting go
Be demanding and fault-finding
.
While autism spectrum disorders do not make people toxic, many of the other disorders – the personality disorders listed – definitely can.
Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder (This is not the same as OCD).
Too detail-oriented, Perfectionistic, Doesn’t Delegate, Keeps Old Items, Rigid and Closed-Minded.
Borderline Personality Disorder
Unstable & angry, fears abandonment, self-harm, suicidality, feels empty, “splitting” (a form of black/white thinking).
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Self-centered, critical, demands admiration, unempathic, entitled, arrogant and egotistical, envious, grandiose.
.
Join us next time — we’re talking about what happens when you don’t ask for enough from others.
More Here: http://lightshouse.org/lights-blog/black-white-thinkers-all-nothing-thinking#ixzz2F0bMDnsd
Dadda, I think you have answered your own question; re. black/white thinking or taking a stance.
For me, the difference between black/white thinking and maintaining a stance is that the black/white thinker takes a stance without any real consideration of other viewpoints, or more probably by taking a stance without any acknowledement that other ideas might create or validate many other possibilities (shades of grey).
Taking a stance is a good thing after careful consideration of other's viewpoints and of other possibilities . . . its called having principles or caring enough to speak out about important matters.
Having black or white thinking would be taking a rigid stance (or simply limiting one's own thoughts) without allowing oneself to fairly or completely consider that he/she may either be ignorant of other factors that might alter that choice, or ,more likely means that the person is too rigid in their own limited scope of reality to believe that their view or opinion might not be the ONLY view.
Black/white thinking limits one's possiblities to "all or nothing" thinking in a way that demands "one-size fits all" or proclaims that there is "only one truth." It does not allowi for partial or overlapping truths or for completely diffierent multiple truths that are dependent upon circumstances, abilities, or other factors. Black/white thinkiing does not allow for principled compromise, or multi-layered circumstances. It's more of a "my way or the highway" kind of thinking. Taking a principled stand should require one to first "walk in others' shoes" to see if oneself is missing some important insight. Taking a principled stand after such consideration is usually a good thing.
Just my opinion.