Loved Ones who support someone with MS Community Group
This group is meant for those who help someone with MS. This would include family, good friends, spouses and caregivers. It is a place to exchange good ideas that may help us in caring for those we love that have this disease.
First thank you to ezone who made a post on this topic where she gave out a news article on research about this topic. Her post can be found at URL: http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Multiple-Sclerosis-MS/forum/In-The-News/14493362-milk-anyone
The Link she gave to the contents of the milk studied in Europe was URL:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2012050/The-cocktail-20-chemicals-glass-milk.html
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Can Allergens Affect Brain Function? Per Dr. Parker's SPECT brain imaging and work with his patients the answers is YES. Read below post for more information.
Disclosure: I have to say hubby's side are dairy farmers. They do NOT use hormones and are measured on many different factors for quality. They have pumps that monitor temp, fat, protein, WBC count, etc in every cow as it is being milked. So they know when one has Mastitis and the machine automatically dumps her milk. Then that numbered cow's milk will not be added to the tank for several weeks during and after treatment. They sell to Quality Dairy milk and get higher prices because of the higher grade quality. However many milk processors do not have very high standards to pass and there milk quality is much lower.
I also want to say it is hard to get away from many of these chemicals and even hormones which are even in our WATER!! As many people dump their unused meds into the toilet and it gets into our drinking water. Companies dump their wastes in the water too. Certain factors are filtered out but many of these water treatment facilities are older and were just not built to deal with filtering hormones, etc. (we use extra filters on our drinking water)
I myself LOVE milk and NEEDED it when I was a kid. Here is the thing milk has vitamin D, so do mushrooms which I have never liked and have IgE acute allergies to. So milk was the only thing that had Vitamin D in any real quantity that I got in my diet. I got a Vitamin D check in 2008 and on an IL norm scale of 32-100 I scored a 6!!! ) : No wonder I craved milk so bad.
I immediately put myself on 5000 IU of D3 and three months later realized I was buying less milk. Then it dawned on me that I wasn't drinking much of it. I also didn't have any urge to want to drink any, besides on my cereal in the morning. Now things get interesting a year after that because the sinus issues I have ALWAYS had reduced by about 85-90%. I had been tested for allergies a couple times in my life but only came up with mushroom allergy. I started digging because this info would point to a dairy allergen. I found out most docs ONLY test IgE but there are Ig M, A, D, G & E Antibodies.
My hubby has many IgG chronic allergens and so does my daughter. The one thing on her list that is not on his is dairy which from my symptoms I am assuming she got from me. My son also has dairy issues and you can read my profile on how I got rid of his eczema, in part, due to dairy, probiotics and higher pH diet.
I have been talking about 70-80% of immune system being in the gut and contributing to inflammation, other immune up-regulation and reduced absorption of nutrients to stay healthy here on DS for years. Many of my posts go over how problems in gut (including food allergens) can affect overall health including the brain.
Well guess what I recently read about Dr Charles Parker (30+ years experience) who has done SPECT imaging on the brains of those with ADHD? He has found "holes" of inactivity in the frontal lobe where impulse control is found. He is dealing with gut and immune issues and by reducing allergens is positively influencing the "diminished metabolism" found in the ADHD brains of many of his patients. Do you know what he is finding is the number one offender of immune problems that reduce nutrients getting to the brain? Wait for it.....DAIRY followed by wheat and eggs. By taking these three things out of the diet for 2 weeks many of his patient's, not all, symptoms improve and brain imaging is backing that up.
The Link she gave to the contents of the milk studied in Europe was URL:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2012050/The-cocktail-20-chemicals-glass-milk.html
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Can Allergens Affect Brain Function? Per Dr. Parker's SPECT brain imaging and work with his patients the answers is YES. Read below post for more information.
Disclosure: I have to say hubby's side are dairy farmers. They do NOT use hormones and are measured on many different factors for quality. They have pumps that monitor temp, fat, protein, WBC count, etc in every cow as it is being milked. So they know when one has Mastitis and the machine automatically dumps her milk. Then that numbered cow's milk will not be added to the tank for several weeks during and after treatment. They sell to Quality Dairy milk and get higher prices because of the higher grade quality. However many milk processors do not have very high standards to pass and there milk quality is much lower.
I also want to say it is hard to get away from many of these chemicals and even hormones which are even in our WATER!! As many people dump their unused meds into the toilet and it gets into our drinking water. Companies dump their wastes in the water too. Certain factors are filtered out but many of these water treatment facilities are older and were just not built to deal with filtering hormones, etc. (we use extra filters on our drinking water)
I myself LOVE milk and NEEDED it when I was a kid. Here is the thing milk has vitamin D, so do mushrooms which I have never liked and have IgE acute allergies to. So milk was the only thing that had Vitamin D in any real quantity that I got in my diet. I got a Vitamin D check in 2008 and on an IL norm scale of 32-100 I scored a 6!!! ) : No wonder I craved milk so bad.
I immediately put myself on 5000 IU of D3 and three months later realized I was buying less milk. Then it dawned on me that I wasn't drinking much of it. I also didn't have any urge to want to drink any, besides on my cereal in the morning. Now things get interesting a year after that because the sinus issues I have ALWAYS had reduced by about 85-90%. I had been tested for allergies a couple times in my life but only came up with mushroom allergy. I started digging because this info would point to a dairy allergen. I found out most docs ONLY test IgE but there are Ig M, A, D, G & E Antibodies.
My hubby has many IgG chronic allergens and so does my daughter. The one thing on her list that is not on his is dairy which from my symptoms I am assuming she got from me. My son also has dairy issues and you can read my profile on how I got rid of his eczema, in part, due to dairy, probiotics and higher pH diet.
I have been talking about 70-80% of immune system being in the gut and contributing to inflammation, other immune up-regulation and reduced absorption of nutrients to stay healthy here on DS for years. Many of my posts go over how problems in gut (including food allergens) can affect overall health including the brain.
Well guess what I recently read about Dr Charles Parker (30+ years experience) who has done SPECT imaging on the brains of those with ADHD? He has found "holes" of inactivity in the frontal lobe where impulse control is found. He is dealing with gut and immune issues and by reducing allergens is positively influencing the "diminished metabolism" found in the ADHD brains of many of his patients. Do you know what he is finding is the number one offender of immune problems that reduce nutrients getting to the brain? Wait for it.....DAIRY followed by wheat and eggs. By taking these three things out of the diet for 2 weeks many of his patient's, not all, symptoms improve and brain imaging is backing that up.
I think people should get a comprehensive IgG allergy check when they are kids and then again in their twenties. If you have dairy issues, autoimmune condition or allergy symptoms that won't go away (drainage, sinus, sm cough, eye issues) then get off dairy for 2 weeks, then gluten+ dairy for 2 weeks. I think many people would be amazed at how much better they will feel.
MS is an AutoIMMUNE disease. Well then it would seem logical to reduce food you are allergic to to reduce unnecessary immune activity. Since 70-80% of immune cells are in the gut (see research below labeled 1). It would seem prudent to get a workup on food allergens that cause Antibodies such as IgA (80% in gut), IgG (chronic) & IgE (acute). Most docs ONLY test for IgE which cause an acute allergic reaction. However, these other antibodies can cause damage to the GI, up-regulate inflammation and other immune functions in the body. Impairments of the GI can affect brain function ( see research below 3, 4, 5).
We had IgE checked and then an IgG Food Safe Allergen Test from Life Extension for 95 foods. If you find another place that does it please list because I still want my son tested and if there is a better lab test I will upgrade. After we got the lab results then we excluded a good chunk of food which was causing IgG Abs for my family. It really helped my daughter who was having allergen symptoms such as DRY, puffy eyes. The doctor was not able to help since she had no IgE antibodies but boy did she have IgG problems. We found a few IgE issues with hubby and then excluded his IgG issues. Getting rid of what was causing allergens for him (gluten, corn, eggs, etc) got rid of his black circles under his eyes and helped with other issues too. I am still looking for a place that will check IgA antibodies and if anyone finds a lab for this please post.
Questions to you
A. So have you gotten your IgG, IgE (docs usually test for this), IgM, IgD, & IgA antibodies tested?
B. If you did get IgGs checked, once you eliminated antibody causing food did it help your symptoms?
C. What are your general thoughts on the topic of GI Antibodies, bacteria and structural integrity ie tight junction problems in MS research participants?
Best wishes to all
1.) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2515351/
Clin Exp Immunol. 2008 September; 153(s1): 3–6.Allergy and the gastrointestinal system
G Vighi, et, al.
"The gastrointestinal system plays a central role in immune system homeostasis."
"The crucial position of the gastrointestinal system is testified by the huge amount of immune cells that reside within it. Indeed, gut-associated lymphoid tissue (GALT) .... represents almost 70% of the entire immune system; moreover, about 80% of plasma cells [mainly immunoglobulin A (IgA)-bearing cells] reside in GALT. "
"...by increasing intestinal permeability in replay to particular stimulations, ... sometimes provoking damage to the intestinal mucosa, such as in" ******"coeliac disease or food allergy. "
2.) MacDonald T.T. and Monteleone G. Immunity, Inflammation & Allergy in the Gut. Science, 2005; 307(5717): 1920-1925.
3.) Fasano A. Surprises from Celiac Disease. Scientific American, 2009; 301(2): 54-61
"abnormal interstitial permeability is in multiple autoimmune diseases" such as UC, Crohns, MS, RA, etc.
me- So the GI is compromised this means that absorption/ metabolism could be impaired.
4.) Kelsall B.L. Innate and Adaptive Mechanisms to Control of Pathological Intestinal Inflammation. Journal of Pathology, 2008; 214 (4): 242-259.
5.) http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204468004577164732944974356.html
Wall Street Journal January 17, 2012 Article: A Gut Check for Many Ailments By SHIRLEY S. WANG
"This enteric nervous system is known among researchers as the "gut brain."
"* The enteric nervous system, or 'gut brain,' can operate independently of the brain.
* Neurons in the gut produce neurotransmitters also found in the brain, such as serotonin.
* Disruptions to beneficial gut bacteria may affect mood.
* Neurotransmitters made in the gut help control the formation of bone.
* Stimulating gut neurons may help treat obesity and diabetes."
"In a study of 23 autistic children and nine typically developing kids, a bacterium unique to the intestines of those with autism called Sutterella was discovered."
"Low serotonin levels in the brain are known to affect mood and sleep. Several common antidepressants work by raising levels of serotonin in the brain. Yet about 95% of the serotonin in the body is made in the gut, not in the brain,"
"Studying the neurons in the gut also may also help shed light on Parkinson's disease. " "Researchers are now studying whether gut neurons, which can be sampled through a routine colonoscopy, may help clinicians diagnose and track the disease without invasive brain biopsies"
6.) Groups researching bacteria of the gut
http://www.genome.gov/27549144
http://hmpdacc.org/