Liars Anonymous Community Group
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For the last ten days I've been in such a dark place. For seven weeks prior to that, my relationship with ym husband had been improving beyond all measure, and as he told me, for the first time in over a year he felt he could see a bright, shining light at the end of a dark tunnel. He was beginning to trust me again and we were finding new strengths in our relationship.
The thing that broke it all was my inability to be completely honest about a brief relationship that I had had, some 27 years ago, with someone who had been, and was still, a good friend. I don't know why I found it so difficult - I couldn't remember some details of exactly what had happened and when, and I still can't. But I didn't tell him that there had been two incidents, not the one I had referred to, and I didn't tell him exactly what had happened. When pushed, I changed my story.
Why did I do this? I've been trying to find out myself. The man lives in the same town as us, and we occasionally see him in the supermarket. He's always friendly - because he's a nice, friendly person. Is the reason I didn't tell my husband because I felt uncomfortable about what he might think next time we bump into this guy? Or is it because I thought my husband would feel uncomfortable? I didn't do it to hurt him, although I'm sure he thinks that my inability to tell him everything about it is a deliberate act - a mistake made once is a mistake, but when you make the same mistake again and again it's a deliberate act.
I'm still trying to go back in time and work out the things I did and the reasons I did them. It's really difficult. My huband finally told me a couple of days ago that deep down he doesn't think that I've had an affair or been unfaithful to him, but I have admitted to him that couple of times I felt so frustrated and unhappy that I thought about running off to an ex-boyfriend who I had friended on Facebook. Last night he said something that made me feel quite belittled, in front of one of my daughters. A short while later I told him quietly that I thought it was uncalled for, and he was defensive about what he had said. I thought about it a lot through the night and realised that a lot of the times in the past when I had thoughts of running away, it was after he'd said something that had made me feel small. I didn't feel strong enough to tell him that whatever he had just said, no matter how insignificant it was or no matter whether it was instantly forgotten by him, had made me feel small. Not telling him this was not exactly lying, but it wasn't being open and honest either. If I'd told him, he might have felt defensive and angry, but he might have thought more if he'd felt like saying something the next time, and I might have been able to be more honest about how it made me feel. I didn't tell him and everything inside me just seethed.
We are still married, and at the moment he doesn't seem to have a plan to leave, so I am holding onto that and hoping that it will be enough for both of us, if only for now. He's asked me in the past to sign divorce papers, but I can't bring myself to say yes. If I did, I would feel that I would be lying and saying that I didn't want to be his wife anymore. I'd be saying I didn't love him, and that would be a lie. But if I really do love him, and the only way that he could be happy was for me to let him go and find happiness with someone else, would that be more of an act of love? He says I'm selfish because I only think about how I feel - but I promised to spend my life with him and be faithful to him, and although he says he's released me from that, I can't release myself.
The thing that broke it all was my inability to be completely honest about a brief relationship that I had had, some 27 years ago, with someone who had been, and was still, a good friend. I don't know why I found it so difficult - I couldn't remember some details of exactly what had happened and when, and I still can't. But I didn't tell him that there had been two incidents, not the one I had referred to, and I didn't tell him exactly what had happened. When pushed, I changed my story.
Why did I do this? I've been trying to find out myself. The man lives in the same town as us, and we occasionally see him in the supermarket. He's always friendly - because he's a nice, friendly person. Is the reason I didn't tell my husband because I felt uncomfortable about what he might think next time we bump into this guy? Or is it because I thought my husband would feel uncomfortable? I didn't do it to hurt him, although I'm sure he thinks that my inability to tell him everything about it is a deliberate act - a mistake made once is a mistake, but when you make the same mistake again and again it's a deliberate act.
I'm still trying to go back in time and work out the things I did and the reasons I did them. It's really difficult. My huband finally told me a couple of days ago that deep down he doesn't think that I've had an affair or been unfaithful to him, but I have admitted to him that couple of times I felt so frustrated and unhappy that I thought about running off to an ex-boyfriend who I had friended on Facebook. Last night he said something that made me feel quite belittled, in front of one of my daughters. A short while later I told him quietly that I thought it was uncalled for, and he was defensive about what he had said. I thought about it a lot through the night and realised that a lot of the times in the past when I had thoughts of running away, it was after he'd said something that had made me feel small. I didn't feel strong enough to tell him that whatever he had just said, no matter how insignificant it was or no matter whether it was instantly forgotten by him, had made me feel small. Not telling him this was not exactly lying, but it wasn't being open and honest either. If I'd told him, he might have felt defensive and angry, but he might have thought more if he'd felt like saying something the next time, and I might have been able to be more honest about how it made me feel. I didn't tell him and everything inside me just seethed.
We are still married, and at the moment he doesn't seem to have a plan to leave, so I am holding onto that and hoping that it will be enough for both of us, if only for now. He's asked me in the past to sign divorce papers, but I can't bring myself to say yes. If I did, I would feel that I would be lying and saying that I didn't want to be his wife anymore. I'd be saying I didn't love him, and that would be a lie. But if I really do love him, and the only way that he could be happy was for me to let him go and find happiness with someone else, would that be more of an act of love? He says I'm selfish because I only think about how I feel - but I promised to spend my life with him and be faithful to him, and although he says he's released me from that, I can't release myself.
The truth is that I have given my wife so very many reasons to leave me over our nearly 30 years together that, if she didn't truly love me and truly forgive me, she'd have been gone years ago! I'm betting the same is true with your husband.
This fear is not real. It comes from somewhere inside myself. It's an irrational fear of being abandonded - of ending up alone. The lies protected me from nothing, and in fact they are the thing that will break us apart, either bringing us to a divorce or just causing an emotional rift that can't be bridged). My lies have caused real harm it's the lies themselves that do the damage - much more damage than the revelation of my "deep dark secrets".
I love my wife, and I hope I can find the source of this irrational fear and put a stop to it before I ruin us. Something I've been telling myself lately for encouragement is that there is no such thing as degrees of honesty I can't work to become "more honest" I have to be just honest - and I'm not there yet!
I hope you get there - and that you can enjoy your husband's love before it's too late.
I think your wife must love you very much, and it's good that she can forgive. I'm not sure about my husband - he has forgiven me a lot and there are a lot of things that I have always been ashamed of - he says it's not what happened or what I did that is the problem, but the fect that I either didn't tell him or lied about it when confronted.
I just have to keep on being truthful, and hope he'll listen again.
That's the way I think it is in my life - I don't mean to presume to know you or your situation, but the people in my life have proven that they deserve my trust - and over and over again I don't give it. I think I hold the one truth that will push them over the edge - so I withhold it. Then things start to spiral completely out of control.
The spiral is a real thing. Two months ago things were so bad that he was actually looking for a place to stay. Then I joined this group, I did become more honest, I did tell him almost everything, and we found a new way forward in our marriage. Only a couple of weeks ago he reminded me that I almost lost him then, and we both said we didn't want to ever be in that place again. Then he asked me to tell him about something that happened in the past, and I didn't tell him the truth. I withheld part of it. It wasn't a threat to him or our marriage, but the fact that I didn't tell him truthfully meant he lost the trust again. It spiralled again, we went back to recriminations and accusations, and it just broke everything that we had built over the previous seven weeks. If I could go back, and just fit that one little piece in that I had lied about, I would do it. I have told him the truth now, but he feels it's too late. He's the only person I want to be with - even when things are bad and we are barely talking, it's a comfort to be near him. I just wish that he felt the same way about me - it must hurt him so badly to be near me.
I feel that way all the time - I fantasize about it. I feel like there was some point in time when I was very young that I decided to lie about something, and it's all been a spiral from there. I don't know why i have this need to control the truth. I'm constantly mitigating - constantly trying to say that I'm not THAT bad. But I am, I'm worse, because I hurt the people I love.
I promised to my wife that I would post here every day - I spent one day when I just read and thought, didn't post - but I said that I did. I didn't let it stand, I corrected it and told the truth that I read but didn't post - although I didn't admit that I lied, which I should have. That's the level I'm at here. I think this way.
I need to find professional help. I need to get into therapy and delve into my life, the seriousness of this lying and how it's shaped my life, my mother's history of depression, my father's alcoholism. All of it. I need therapy and, I'm sure, medication.
I feel like I'm hijacking your post, but I really do appreciate your feedback, and your honesty. Thank you.
I feel that I have to keep plugging away, I promised him forever when I married him and I have no intention of giving up on him, now or in the future. I can only hope that one day he might trust me again and know that it's him I want.
My Name is Domingo and I recently joined this support group today. I'm newly married and I've read your entire post and I could relate to some parts.
My lying stemmed from childhood when I was age 10. I thought that if I made stuff up, I would get away from it. 20 years later, I have lied about little things, but I didn't think they were big at the time. I have a great wife named (T, whose identity I will protect) and she loves me very much. For the last month, I've been lying to her about overspending money and making assumptions and over all, just lying and afraid to tell the truth. We had a discussion about this and I felt so weak when I couldn't answer her questions properly. I felt scared, and was afraid of what would happen if the truth had been known.
That was my thinking as a child, that if I told the truth, bad things would happen. Although, when I did tell the truth, nothing bad happened at all. When I did tell the truth, the exact opposite happened. Nothing. Since the discussion, I'm making an effort to stop lying once and for all and be firm in my conversations.
I'm glad I found this site and will definitely share the rest of my story on another post.
Thank you