Let me be Me Community Group
A support group for those of us that need a safe place to share what ails us. Or what doesn't! This group is your group so you can be the person you really are, no need to pretend, no need to create some successful cyber image. Whether sharing our trials and tribulations, or our success's in life. Whether in sadness and needing comfort and support, or just...
i invite any and all to share here the weirdness,fear,joy,wonderings,insights and just the fuckinaye brilliance that is one of the hallmarks of this group.
i have some starters
Bottomless pits: we all know about these.some hero or nother always skirtin one. ..but.what is one?
bottomless......pretty self explanatory(careful Deb)..............so when ya think on it..any terrestrial bottomless pit would really be a hole through the planet..........which brings up questions ie; assuming a person could survive the environment at the core(we'll be using cartoons for this exercise .first..because we here ARE to varying degrees,cartoons ourselves and second.......who needs second?)...........well coupla things. when somebody goes into a bottomless pit they "fall forever and never stop"(cartoons are redundant) but if our hero fell into this pit that's actually a tunnel........i think the core.......at the very center of earth's gravity field would stop him. now it's more complicated. once stopped would he/she drop to the ground? no bottom so would have to be a tunnel wall. would coming to rest on this wall and thereby arresting the "fall forever that never stops" actually mean hittin the bottom of the bottomless pit?
what if , with cartoon properties our hereo made speed enuff to pass the core and keep goin till gravity reasserted enuff to pull him/her back down? for part of that she/he/it wouldn't be falling any more but would instead be rocketing out from the center of the earth..........hardly following the rules of AbodyInAbottomlessPit behavior. and what if she/they/it/her just shot on through? ....never stopping forsure but......without actually DOING anything this/that/those/thing(s) would first Fall then Rocket Out then Drift Through............three laws of cartoon physics at once in concert and opposed.
SO................bottomless pits.........i really thingt there needs to be more study.
OKAY.....somethin else..........if Seeker(and i aint sayin he does) eats frog legs time to time......is he a cannible?
and if he is......does anyone else think that's cool?
or creepy?
me too.......or neither. i aint decided which.
anybody talks down Seeker though we need to hunt em down and do bad things to em. i know that one's unanama...yooonannymou............unnanymu.....FUCKIT we're all together on that one.
Next to last one..........in a relationship with your spouse/significant other/soulmate/completion of your person or any other name..................which is hardest to bear. outright venomous hostility.
or......true indifference?
Final whatnot for now : personally....i much preffer wearin jammies with pockets to them without.
i love you guys
peace
t
i have some starters
Bottomless pits: we all know about these.some hero or nother always skirtin one. ..but.what is one?
bottomless......pretty self explanatory(careful Deb)..............so when ya think on it..any terrestrial bottomless pit would really be a hole through the planet..........which brings up questions ie; assuming a person could survive the environment at the core(we'll be using cartoons for this exercise .first..because we here ARE to varying degrees,cartoons ourselves and second.......who needs second?)...........well coupla things. when somebody goes into a bottomless pit they "fall forever and never stop"(cartoons are redundant) but if our hero fell into this pit that's actually a tunnel........i think the core.......at the very center of earth's gravity field would stop him. now it's more complicated. once stopped would he/she drop to the ground? no bottom so would have to be a tunnel wall. would coming to rest on this wall and thereby arresting the "fall forever that never stops" actually mean hittin the bottom of the bottomless pit?
what if , with cartoon properties our hereo made speed enuff to pass the core and keep goin till gravity reasserted enuff to pull him/her back down? for part of that she/he/it wouldn't be falling any more but would instead be rocketing out from the center of the earth..........hardly following the rules of AbodyInAbottomlessPit behavior. and what if she/they/it/her just shot on through? ....never stopping forsure but......without actually DOING anything this/that/those/thing(s) would first Fall then Rocket Out then Drift Through............three laws of cartoon physics at once in concert and opposed.
SO................bottomless pits.........i really thingt there needs to be more study.
OKAY.....somethin else..........if Seeker(and i aint sayin he does) eats frog legs time to time......is he a cannible?
and if he is......does anyone else think that's cool?
or creepy?
me too.......or neither. i aint decided which.
anybody talks down Seeker though we need to hunt em down and do bad things to em. i know that one's unanama...yooonannymou............unnanymu.....FUCKIT we're all together on that one.
Next to last one..........in a relationship with your spouse/significant other/soulmate/completion of your person or any other name..................which is hardest to bear. outright venomous hostility.
or......true indifference?
Final whatnot for now : personally....i much preffer wearin jammies with pockets to them without.
i love you guys
peace
t
I could never eat a frog leg and I thing I would kiss a frog if I see one just to send magic to our dear Seek.
I am one with my soulmate but when I am in the evil pain I can put out venomous hostility and think crazy thoughts. Then I wish for the oneness of the beginning of the beginning.
Absolutely jammies with pockets.
The whatnots and the wherefores are good brother T.
I'm dreaming, dressed in my favourite loose tiny spotted, pocketed P.J's, bare feet, I wander in a dream like forest. Not a forest in the "real" world sense. My forest is especially beautiful ...the temperature is perfect, the grass under my feet warm from the day's Sun. It is Dusk...I witness the Sunset every time I visit. The quiet of a Day settling to pass, comforts my soul and my mind.
Surrounded by beautiful creatures, butterflies, blue birds and the like....there is always a frog on a Lilly pad in the pond near where I sit and release my weary mind. I find I'm crying, crying quietly, but it's a great release to my soul.
Something disturbs me, I'm aware then, my mediation has been interrupted, time to go back to reality!
No, could never eat a Frog's Leg, seem's I know a Frog in real life who turns up in my meditation!
Funny how I'm always in my favourite spotted PJ's when I do my meditation!
I see meditation as a kind of falling through a vortex of the conscious mind?
What disturbs me lately ? More often and is hurting my heart? Both of which you speak, T, both. And I can't bring myself to write them. I feel like I'm in the way of some one else 's life. A burden. My heart is breaking, when is try to talk about it, I'm met with anger and frustration.....something is changing....
Love ya T
When I just read this back, it sounded strange! They are daggy long sleeved, long legged
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J's! Nothing sexy! FYI
Lisa!
JC.anything from you.even if it was just an abbreviation of a word......makes me smile.
Hippy....i love you but i gotta take issue some with your rabbit hole deal.
Alice landed.ON something.
therefor..that there pit aint botomless.
of course.falling in the the "real world"...and ebding standin in wonderland.....hmmm...in a sense there..Alice never DID hit bottom...she fell into an ongoing adventure soooooo...bottomless?
could be.
Shoes........so much you make me misty.
that dream is awesome.
i have a similar thing....not a dream but the ever evolving affects(effects?...no matter what state of mind i attain i still can't use the language right....shrug)......of years of efforts with ......hmmmmm......mindstate manipulation i'll use that for now.
it began with meditation. i was introduced to it in my years as a student of judo.
as my "condition" in which i currently live progressed into about it's .......fifth or sixth...ish year....i took instruction on self hypnosis as pertains particularly to achieving delta level sleep.
my earlier yars of training in judo which introduced me to meditative mindstate and the study of qi gong to a lesser degree later in my life made westernized self hypnosis techniques.......refreshingly attractive in the middle of all the drugs and therapies of this n that that i was goin through .
i kind of revisited my earlier tod and he helped me adapt and meld some of thesae things into a uniquely.......weird.....thingthatido :)
(wow....that was a self absorbed ramble that's taken a longass road to a tiny little point if i ever seen one)
what i'm finally gettin at is i "get" your forest.
mine is a mountaintop.
the higest peak in the highest range on any world.
my refuge is a dwelling. right on top. it is built so that , when i'm inside...every bit of it hangs over the sides of this enourmouis peak. like bein .floating. it is very comfortable inside....fire goin....lots of stuff has evolved there from the original one little.center. i wont describe it all but to say i can only be entered in one way. through the roof( which i never really see) accessed by descending through the levels of sleep.
visualization down through A. as seen as a destination. slipping further down i actually enter the place as b level sleep deepens. when i get in there and continue to descend in the sleep levels.....it becomes more and more "real"
inside there.i am so far from the rest of humanity......any other organic life even.except some plants i keep in there.....the total isolation is awesom e. i have flooe to ceiling windows in the center room. other places as well but really hangin out over everything in that room. and always there is a fierce blizzed outside. killin weather. a raging , howling, beasty mountain storm. but insude is total silence. except any i choose to make. there is no way in but through my own mind. there is no one in creation who knows where i am. huge destructive forces of unspeakable power rage right all around me. yet i am warm. safe. totally alone .....and content.
since the pain has gotten to such high and constant levels it has proven a great difficulty for me to actually get there. been some years since i9 settled my soul in comfort there and just..........was.
i can still see it. my body though no longer allows me the time of stillness required for me to ......inhabit the place. and i never have(so far) achieved the mastery required to get there before the pain makes it impossible.
when i could still do it though it gave me the most wonderful sensation of..........nothing.
the top of my mind knew i was in my chair. but all of me wasw really in the center......and while i was there......sitting. tending the fire. goin room to room. or just, most often.absorbing the majesty of the fury outside. and ...physically.....i felt nothing.
i could search for a limb. for my digits. for my eyes or lips.......and could simply not detect them. not like floating. like.........physical nothingness. best thing ever. i'm sure a shrink would have a lot to say about the symbolism here.....but all i know is....those times....the gift i constantly fling in hope at all you guys and most folks i know.....i had that......peace.
quiet.......peace.
makes me all teary here just writin this. i can no longer(currently) approach my refuge of center.
i can still see it. i can superficvially tour it's quiet, serene,security.
that makes me happy. i like it there to the level i can be there. just not all of me can get in there (for now ywt).......so...i taste the wonderful solitude and enjoy the delight layed on my senses.inner and outer.
i love it there.
....and.....i know you will understand this part Shoes.it loves me there too.
one day i will again gain full immersion....................or......i wont.
but for all my days....i will get what of me is capable of bein there.....in there.
so i think i have a particular empathy with you in your forest my friend. makes me happy for you.
.........now......comin to think on it.......i never have noticed anything i'm wearin there.......but next time i get to my mountain and bring what of me can be brought into the embrace......i'm gonna do it in baggy, long slevved long legged jammies.
with pockets and spots.
sorry bout the ramble........sort :)
i'm so glad you went with this where you did Shoes.
it's time i made another visit up the mountain.
i feel some healing up there.
thanks.
onanother matter....Ducks as Food.
i have eaten lots of food i don't like . i say..."i don't like that too good" folks who DO usually say along the lines of." hmm. i do"
easy right?
i honestly don't think i have ever once said to a ducklover(you know what i mean) " i don't like eatin duck" without at least a variation of this answer "well.......you just aint had it cooked right"
i've tried several "cooked right" ducks.duck jerky came the closest to beein ok to me.
but.....i just don't like duck.
am i the only one noticing this about folks who like the taste of that bird?
maybe you are one...anybody.
you ever found yourself sayin that to a person don't like the foul tastin things?
i have no explanation for this.....but it's on my list of "ask God when i get there" questions.
i suer do love you guys.have i mentioned that?
peaceAll
t
holy crap...that had potential for some serious mis interpretation there.
and you few wiseasses who woulda nailed me on that know just who you are too,
uuuhhh........"nailed me" was probably not good phrasin either.
i'm gonna stop now.
hopefully there are no more of those.
if there are..........well i guess i'm just fucked.
GEEEEEEEZZZ tod...go to bed!
nite all.
peace
t
Wahoooooo..... didn't fall in,...... 8-)
Assuming gravity constantly pulls us downwards ..... and then .. sigh,... some a**hole puts a hole straight through our beautiful Earth... 8-(
Then.....
Aaaaargh,..., breath... Aaaaaaargh..... we fall into thus hole (the bottomless pit of grief and pain)....... gravity comes into play from both sides of the Earthly hole.....
Would we stop.. n float???...... at the point where the gravity meets and then equiberalizes....???? (He He... new word from the basement)
And....... Thus,..... never hit the bottom due to the theory of "Gravitational Hole Floating"......
Eeeeeeeeugh....... dang would be hot in there..... Nasty,... Nasty,... Hole.....
Shoes n T,
I like the sounds of your Happy Places... 8-)..... I used to meditate for an 1.5 hours each day, still think it used to have a positive impact and really helped my health... haven't been able to enter and get into the meditation for ages, either.... grrrrr,..... get stuck...
Thankyou, for giving me those visions and an inspiration,.. to get back into that daily recharge ritual....
Huge Hugs LMBM..... xoxoxoxoxo
I've tried in the past to create "Visions" with much more detail detail, however, for me, it seems, I think, as it love Nature's colours, my mind decided for me where I was to go to be successful in Meditation. Maybe this is the theory behind your ability, a subconscious love of a particular wonder force of nature?but I still say, a stronger mind of you. How I wish for you to find that "peace". I have to be laying down supported by about six different pillows! Not long after recent meds for best chance of total relaxation and trying to avoid pain break through...
You took me to your place with your description, I can understand the solitude. The safety against all forces of nature, being the observer, while feeling comforted by the fire. Indeed a wonderful Vision. I'm humbled by you sharing such a sacred place.
We two need to work on ourselves in our journey to visit "peace" . I'm thinking our Souls are crying out for a taste more often, even if it is only by reflection, it has got to raise the endorphins our brain needs!
Man! I love this group!
Seek, don't you think it funny, there is a frog in my Meditation?
Duck! YUCK! There is another word that rhymes, but as I'm not feeling well today and am concentrating on good thoughts as much as possible, I won't swear! That is all I have to say on that subject. Sorry , T.
Seek, I find it amazing that you could meditate for 1.5 hours a day! My Dr says 15 minutes is proven to help the endorphins ! You must have been one very "chilled" out Frog! Do you ever think about going back to it?
Now, I'm not suggesting the scientific equation kind, which, I might add, was an impressive answer to T's question........I went off "with the Fairies" so to speak, in my answer!
Funny how you mentioned the basement? ( you love that basement!, I think, it's well and truly over due, for some good stupid talking, laugh out loud fun! To be happening down in that basement! )
XxL
i miss the basement.
here's an idea.......ifn Seeker gives the go.......since so many of us have had such a hard ole time for quite awhile it seems that at any given moment...quite some few of us are sadly absent.
i would like to suggest an old fashioned Fish N Cigars Party.
instead of a welcometothegroup(although certainly that if there are any newcomers) it could be a welcomebackhome type a thing.
we could all get hammered on whatever...Tonna,Steve and Deb could break out Wanda and the formal clothes they like so well (are Ladies underwear considered formal? Black Tie Me Up perhaps?. Seek could show us what he's got up to down there.like that awesome new word "equaliberalize".i love that. the zombie probly has some new dancemoves ....or body parts.dunno but knowin our Frawgy i know it aint stayed stagnant down there......bit rank maybe but not stagnant.
so i say we get down there and tear one up till the other boards and chat rooms call the cops.
and , i imagin the fire dept. and an ambulance or few.
.....bombsquad.
youknow.......just a friendly little get together LMBM style.
i mean.....we aint set no fires,blowed nothin up or publicly humiliated ourselves(at the same time) in a long ole while.
excellent idea Shoes.
i'm down
peace
t
That new word tipped me off, he has been up to something! Things have been way to serious for too long! So much "reality" can turn us crazy, so we have an excuse!
I'm sure the "Boss", Deb, would like a Party to attend? Any new members, really need to get to know our silly side of blowing off chronic "what nots"!
Seems to me Seek has been too long down there alone, or has he been alone? It is always the quiet, polite ones, with the ability to think scientifically you got to watch out for! Also I noticed Steva, dropped in the was gone before we could pin him down to see where or what he had been up to? Maybe he has been in the basement frequenting Seek's Bar? Matt, there's another one, secret Agent type? Never know ..........
Jan and her slippers? Hmmmmm yep, I say yes, we need to talk with Mr Seek! Agreed?
And fish sometimes!
I also, not often enough, like to travel the inner universe
I've been wanting to go there for quite some time now,
Just can't seem to get there...
Love n Hugs
Michael
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Bottomless pits? I agree with yea T, a hole right through.
Would the gravity create enough momentum or speed to shout you out the other side?
Not smart enough to figure it out...
As far as seeking inner peace,
I keep going back to a sail along the Canadian shore line-on Lake Superior
the freedom I felt was something I still see clearly when I reminisce of those days
Nothing but water to port , to starboard a desolate forboading shore line with unmarked rocks all over,
We were a mile or two offshore safely screaming along headed west into a setting sun
Perfect sailing day and we were there for it
The world for me had shrunk to the point it was only us the lake and the sky
Absolutely magical
This is where I'd love to see again
Is this even relevant?
Yea know I read all the thread than I get lost trying to add something,
Lose my thoughts
You all are so kind
Thanks
Peace n Hugs
Michael
that is awesome man.
i get this weird feelin sometimes......kinda like that elevator/stomache thing?
but it's one for the soul
your sailin story did that to me
the wording is so perfect.....takes me right there.
gives me tears even.....the good ones.
thanks for that.
as far as relevance goes.....that's just a relevant term anyhow and has no business on the iron road.:):)
to my thinkin.........anything that any one here on this road is able to make themselves go through what it takes to get on here and get it said........those words be golden.
and yours.just there......to me..are especially so.
i can HEAR it man
just beautiful
peace
t