WHAT WERE THE MEDS?? i AM HAVING SAME PROBLEMS NOT GOOD PLACE TO BE IS IT. CAN WE HELP SOMEHOW???

JUST KNOWING YA'LL ARE AROUND IS GOOD FOR ME THANK YOU STAR.

SOUNDS LIKE DEPRESSION. IT IS GOOD KNOWING PPL CARE ABOUT YOU.

IF YOU HAD NO 1 IT'D BE A DARKER WORLD.

I KNOW THAT 1 WELL.

HOPE YOU GET THE RIGHT HELP SOON NICK.

I HAVE ISSUES WITH DEPRESSION CAUSED BY HEALTH ISSUES AND THANK YOU GOOD SIR. IT SUCK, BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO?

OH BOY DO COWBOY AND I KNOW ABOUT DEPRESSION. IT CAN DRIVE A PERSON TO DO HORRIBLE THINGS TO THEMSELVES.

WE'RE HERE FOR YOU NICK, TALK TO US!

NICK,
YOU ASK WHAT CAN YOU DO?

IT DOESN'T SEEM LOGICAL, BUT TALKING ABOUT DOES HELP A LITTLE BIT FOR SOME REASON,
EVEN IF THE PERSON U TALK TO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WELL.

OF COURSE YOU SHOULD ONLY TALK TO PPL WHO WON'T JUDGE YOU.
FROM WHAT I KNOW OF THE PPL WE HAVE IN R GROUP HERE WE DON'T HAVE 'JUDGERS'

IN THE PAST I'VE TALKED A FEW PPL OUT OF WANTING TO LIVE IN THE 'DIRT'

I HAD A FAMILY OF 5 LIVIN WITH ME N MY X WIFE, THE 7 OR 9 YR OLD GIRL WAS MOLESTED BY HER REAL FATHER & WOULD WAKE UP WITH BAD DREAMS.
SHE'D COME DOWNSTAIRS,,, HER MOM N STEPDAD THOUGHT SHE'D GO TO THEM, BUT THE GIRL ALWAYS CAME TO ME & I'D HOLD HER FOR A COUPLE HRS TIL SHE FELT BETTER THAN I'D PUT HER TO BED.

You can call me senior but ya can't call me crazy. Watch:
1. A pharm comes up with a drug and does testing.
2. A med. research writer types it up (eventually) for the FDA and is told what not to put in the report. Drag me off and put me in jail but it's the truth. The FDA yeahs or nays the drug. if they yeah it, wait for the lawsuits.
3. I honestly don't know enough to say that all drugs were made depression. It tends to be an evolution looking for money by the pharms. So, the anti-depressant may have started out as a heart med. Ooops, didn't work, they try other issues.

In the end, it's hit an miss as to whether or not the drug will work for you and we are all different, so our bodies process in their unique way.

Cowboy357 (and cowgirl?)? I love reading your responses. Same for crazyladydeb.

So Mr. Wolf, you're right. What can you do. Anti-depressants do not take care of the real issue and may make you more sick. When I first tried something from the Paxil family, my foot and my first corgi's nub tail were in competition as to which could move faster and who could outlast the other. Meagan, of course, didn't realize I was competing with her tail :) . Zytec made me act like a drunk and was a horrible drug for me. Pharms show side-effects so we'll all say, "Well they all have side-effects, so I'll try it." Be careful with that. They are desensitizing us. Check out the effects. I've tossed bottles or taken them back when I knew it would be more harmful than I would tolerate.

WELL VIAGRA STARTED OUT AS A HEART MED AND IT GETS USED FOR OTHER THINGS. ANY WAYS YEAH, IT'S GETTING FRUSTARTING BECAUSE NOW THEY WANT TO SEND ME TO A PAIN SPECAILIST AND SOMEONE IN MY FAMILY KEEPS PUSHING ME TO GO TO ANOTHER DOCTOR. RIGHT BECAUSE IT ONLY TOOK 4 MONTHS TO SEE THE SPINAL DOC AFTER THE MR. UGH GETTING IRRITATED AND THE THIRD MED THE SPINAL DOC GAVE ME IS FOR ANXIETY AND THAT MADE ME TIRED FOR TWO DAYS ON ONE PILL.

A PAIN SPECIALIST CAN HELP YOU WITH PAIN , WITH MEDS,
SOME THINGS ARE NOT MEDS LIKE A NUEROSTIMULIZER,
ANOTHER THAT DOESN'T EFFECT THE BRAIN WOULD BE A PAIN PUMP.
& THE LAST OPTION, THE PILLS ,

IF YOU GET A MED U GET IRRATED ON THEY CAN GIVE YOU XANAX (ZANAX) WITH IT MAYBE?

OR YOU CAN SUFFER WITH
A PHYSICAL THERAPIST WILL TORTURE YOU WITH EXCERCISE.

COWBOY: I HAD A TABLE SAW ACCIDENT TEN YEARS AGO. PART OF MY FINGER HAD TO BE REMOVED. IT'S GONE BUT SUBTLE ENOUGH TO MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN NOTICE IT UNTIL I POINT IT OUT. (TOP/FIRST DIGIT IS MISSING AND DANG, I'M A FAST 9-FINGER TYPIST :) ). THE PHYSICAL THERAPIST GAVE UP ON ME BECAUSE WHEN HE BENT MY FINGER TO TRY TO GET SOME RANGE OF MOVEMENT, I HIT THE CEILING USUALLY. I HAVE A HIGH PAIN TOLERANCE BUT NOT THERE!

SO PTS TORTURE YOU WITH EXERCISE AND AUDIOLOGISTS TORTURE YOU WITH TESTS...

CRAZYDEAFWOLF: RIGHT ON. I SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM. IF VIAGRA STARTED OUT AS A HEART MED (FDA-APPROVED) AND MORPH IT INTO OTHER THINGS, WHAT THE SAM HILL ELSE IS THE GOVERNMENT DOING. NO WONDER THERE ARE SO MANY LAWSUITS. BUT IT'S THE AMERICAN WAY AND GOOD FOR BIG BUSINESS.

CYNICISM? NOPE. REALITY? YEAH.

I'M SURE THAT HURT HURT SENIOR, THEM TABLE SAWS CAN BE SCARY ESPECIALY THE ONES FROM THE 1940'S I USED TO WORK AT A SAWMILL, THEIR BLADE WAS ABOUT 3 FT. WIDE, WHEN THEM LOGS GET CAUGHT N JUMP YOU JUMP TOO ! LOL
I'VE SEEN ALOT OF FRIENDS FINGERS LIKE THAT.
MOST DIABETICS TEST THEIR BLOOD SUGAR THEIR ON TIPS OF FINGERS, THEY ALWAYS CRINGE FROM IT.
NOT ME , I TEST ON THE PALM OF MY HAND UNDER MY PINKY A LITTLE MORE THAT HALFWAY DOWN TO MY WRIST, I STILL GET A GOOD READING, ALL MY DIFFERENT ENDOCRINOLOGIST DOCS NEVER HAVE A PROB WITH IT.
WHEN I WORKED IN WOODSHOP AS I WAS WALKING TO A DRILLPRESS THERE WAS A LADY THERE WORKING ON A SAW & AS I WAS ALMOST TO MY POST SHE SCREAMED BLOODY MURDER,
SHE CUT OFF A FEW FINGERS , LUCKILY DOCKS PUT HER BACK TOGETHER & FEW WEEKS LATER SHE WAS BACK TO WORK.
MY SIS INLAW WAS A PHYSICAL THERAPIST, SHE SAID PATIENTS CALLED HER A 'PHYSICAL TERRORIST', LOL
I GAVE MY DOCS A 3 PAGE LIST OF MY MAJOR INJURIES I COULD REMEMBER, I THOUGHT OF MORE AFTERWARDS. I SHOULD'VE BEEN DEAD QUITE A FEW TIMES. NOPE NOT TODAY,LOL
MANY MEDIOCOR ONES' ... MINOR ONES SO WHAT,LOL

COWBOY YOUR SIS IN LAW MUST HAVE BEEN THE ONE I SAW FOR MY HIPS!!
I LIKE PHYSICAL TERRORIST!!!
VIAGRA FOR THE HEART AND IT WORKS BELOW THE WAIST?? WOW AM WONDERING JUST WHAT THE HEY THIS WORLD IS COMING TO.
SENIOR HOPE IT WASNT THE WRONG FINGER PPL JUST WLDNT UNDERSTAND HAHAHA

OF COURSE IT WAS THE WRONG FINGER C DEB, LOL

THE WRONG FINGER IS B/C IT WAS SENIORS FINGER,
IF IT'D BEEN SOMEONE ELSES IT'D BEEN THE RIGHT FINGER.