Divorce after Twenty years together Community Group
I want to start something for those of us that were married for a long long time. I think that we face a little different issues than those who were dating for a few years or even married for shorter period of time. Being married for so long we have older children some have grandkids dealing with teenagers and their reaction to the divorice empty nesters dating after 40...
Coping with Death, Divorce, and the Pain of Loneli
Time4Kim
Last year was absolutely the worst year of my life. In February, my brother and only sibling died from injuries he sustained in a terrible car accident. On Mother's Day, my husband of 24 years told me that he wanted a separation and kicked me out of our home in front of our children. He told me that he has been pretending to love me for a long time. I begged him to go to marriage counseling to save our marriage. He refused stating that our marriage wasn't worth saving. A few weeks later he asked for a divorce. He was leaving me for the woman he had been seeing for a couple of years. He refused to acknowledge the affair and, in fact, tried to convince our children that the divorce was all my fault and that I was evil. For a while, even I believed him. My 20 year old son is only now starting to communicate with me even though he knows the truth about his father's relationship with the other woman. He spends holidays with my ex and with "her" at her mother's house. I have not seen my son in nearly a year.
My divorce was finalized in November of last year. My ex and his mistress are now engaged to be married. When I learned this, just this week, my hard-won strength and will to keep moving forward dissolved. I was suddenly and unexpectedly right back at square one in my healing process. I have learned that grief is not linear. I know that as you grieve a loss as significant as divorce you tend to experience the various stages in cycles, bouncing around from one to the next and back again. But, I didn't expect to suddenly start feeling intense love again for my husband who systematically lied to me on a daily basis to cover his affair. He was exceedingly cruel to me throughout the divorce process. Yet, it was there - that intense longing to have him back in my life. I began comparing myself to "her" all over again. I cried, wept really, and haven't been able to eat or sleep much. I've lost 60 pounds. I'm not complaining about the weight loss. It's a godsend. But, I am very concerned that my efforts to heal and move on are never going to progress if I'm still this deeply affected.
I had been a stay-at-home mom for 17 years. When my son (my youngest) graduated from high school, I went back to college to earn my degree. I am still working on that goal. I've moved back to my home state (a financial necessity), closer to my parents and friends, and have been actively working on building new friendships and trying to build a new life for myself. I've tried online dating, but have yet to find anyone I was interested in seeing a second time. The quality of men just isn't there, so far. It's very discouraging. Like so many women in mid-life, I'm worried that I will never find love again. I believed that my ex and I were soulmates. I never imagined that he would do something like this. Everyone was stunned, even his own family. Yet, they have fully accepted "her" and I am forced to fade into the background.
I thought I had released him, wished him well, and begun the necessary and difficult journey of moving on. Apparently not. I want to fully forgive him, but I'm just not quite there yet. I am plagued by memories of our life together that never go away. Songs, places, smells, phrases, silly little things we laughed about - all come rushing into the forefront of my mind and keep me stuck. Yes, I know that things weren't good for the last few years. I know the hard, cold facts about his infidelities (there was more than one woman). Despite it all, I kept clinging to some ridiculous notion that he would eventually realize his mistake and, full of remorse, come back to me. I still cannot fathom how the nearly 30 years we were a couple means nothing to him now. We raised two children. We have so much history. Yet, all of that has vanished from his mind as if it never happened. I have been vilified, rejected, ignored, and thrown away. I live with constant, aching loneliness at the loss of my best friend and partner. I thought we would gracefully enjoy the time we had together as our children left the nest. I cherished the thought of growing old together. He had other plans. The nest emptied all the same, while my entire life shattered into pieces.
Some of my pain, confusion, and anger stems from the fact that he is willing to do for "her" things he would not do for me. I begged him to go to church with me. He refused. Before our divorce was even finalized, he was sitting in a pew every Sunday with "her" at MY church.
I get up each day, go to my classes, work out, and eat well (when I feel like eating at all). I have many good friends and a few great ones. I make a list each day of all the things I am grateful for to keep things in perspective. Yet, the loneliness is crushing. Some days it's a struggle to breathe. I am always grateful for the days when it is bearable. I've worked with a therapist, seen my doctor, talked to ministers, talked to friends, become a self-help book junkie, and journal nearly every day. Yet, I still unravel when I hear just how wonderful life is for my ex or when my son (still living with his father while he attends college) refuses to communicate with me. I've offered to let him live with me. He prefers to live with his father, two states away. My daughter is married and is supportive. She knows the full truth because witnesses to the affair called her to tell her what they saw. She's disgusted with her father, yet she is desperate for his love and attention. He was cruel to her throughout the divorce and the aftermath because she asked too many questions and demanded that he tell her the truth. Now, he's trying to get back into her good graces so that she will accept "her" as his new wife.
What upsets me worst of all is the knowledge that I will now have to share my children and future grandchildren with the woman who so callously tore apart my family. How do you ever reconcile that in your heart?
I want to fully heal from this, reclaim my life, and find love again. We all do. I welcome any thoughts, ideas, suggestions, and comments from those of you who have walked this terrible path. Any insight is very much appreciated.
Kindest regards,
Kim
My divorce was finalized in November of last year. My ex and his mistress are now engaged to be married. When I learned this, just this week, my hard-won strength and will to keep moving forward dissolved. I was suddenly and unexpectedly right back at square one in my healing process. I have learned that grief is not linear. I know that as you grieve a loss as significant as divorce you tend to experience the various stages in cycles, bouncing around from one to the next and back again. But, I didn't expect to suddenly start feeling intense love again for my husband who systematically lied to me on a daily basis to cover his affair. He was exceedingly cruel to me throughout the divorce process. Yet, it was there - that intense longing to have him back in my life. I began comparing myself to "her" all over again. I cried, wept really, and haven't been able to eat or sleep much. I've lost 60 pounds. I'm not complaining about the weight loss. It's a godsend. But, I am very concerned that my efforts to heal and move on are never going to progress if I'm still this deeply affected.
I had been a stay-at-home mom for 17 years. When my son (my youngest) graduated from high school, I went back to college to earn my degree. I am still working on that goal. I've moved back to my home state (a financial necessity), closer to my parents and friends, and have been actively working on building new friendships and trying to build a new life for myself. I've tried online dating, but have yet to find anyone I was interested in seeing a second time. The quality of men just isn't there, so far. It's very discouraging. Like so many women in mid-life, I'm worried that I will never find love again. I believed that my ex and I were soulmates. I never imagined that he would do something like this. Everyone was stunned, even his own family. Yet, they have fully accepted "her" and I am forced to fade into the background.
I thought I had released him, wished him well, and begun the necessary and difficult journey of moving on. Apparently not. I want to fully forgive him, but I'm just not quite there yet. I am plagued by memories of our life together that never go away. Songs, places, smells, phrases, silly little things we laughed about - all come rushing into the forefront of my mind and keep me stuck. Yes, I know that things weren't good for the last few years. I know the hard, cold facts about his infidelities (there was more than one woman). Despite it all, I kept clinging to some ridiculous notion that he would eventually realize his mistake and, full of remorse, come back to me. I still cannot fathom how the nearly 30 years we were a couple means nothing to him now. We raised two children. We have so much history. Yet, all of that has vanished from his mind as if it never happened. I have been vilified, rejected, ignored, and thrown away. I live with constant, aching loneliness at the loss of my best friend and partner. I thought we would gracefully enjoy the time we had together as our children left the nest. I cherished the thought of growing old together. He had other plans. The nest emptied all the same, while my entire life shattered into pieces.
Some of my pain, confusion, and anger stems from the fact that he is willing to do for "her" things he would not do for me. I begged him to go to church with me. He refused. Before our divorce was even finalized, he was sitting in a pew every Sunday with "her" at MY church.
I get up each day, go to my classes, work out, and eat well (when I feel like eating at all). I have many good friends and a few great ones. I make a list each day of all the things I am grateful for to keep things in perspective. Yet, the loneliness is crushing. Some days it's a struggle to breathe. I am always grateful for the days when it is bearable. I've worked with a therapist, seen my doctor, talked to ministers, talked to friends, become a self-help book junkie, and journal nearly every day. Yet, I still unravel when I hear just how wonderful life is for my ex or when my son (still living with his father while he attends college) refuses to communicate with me. I've offered to let him live with me. He prefers to live with his father, two states away. My daughter is married and is supportive. She knows the full truth because witnesses to the affair called her to tell her what they saw. She's disgusted with her father, yet she is desperate for his love and attention. He was cruel to her throughout the divorce and the aftermath because she asked too many questions and demanded that he tell her the truth. Now, he's trying to get back into her good graces so that she will accept "her" as his new wife.
What upsets me worst of all is the knowledge that I will now have to share my children and future grandchildren with the woman who so callously tore apart my family. How do you ever reconcile that in your heart?
I want to fully heal from this, reclaim my life, and find love again. We all do. I welcome any thoughts, ideas, suggestions, and comments from those of you who have walked this terrible path. Any insight is very much appreciated.
Kindest regards,
Kim
Force yourself to. Everytime you do that, it will get easier and easier.
As far as your children, you know that they love you - but they love him too and their relationship with him does not diminish how they feel about you. So he's getting married - so what. He gave up on you and was a cheat - do you really think he won't do it when he gets bored with her? Think again. People of poor character will ALWAYS be that way. Character is inherent you either have it or you don't.
I know it doesn't seem like it right now because you are feeling the loss of your dream, but that's the good thing about dreams - You can always have more...
Please be kind to yourself. You will get through this and you will be better off because of it. As for him, forget him and what he's doing - it's only holding you in a place that you don't want to be.
Welcome - you have found a good place here.
Guilt can be extremely dangerous for the unsuspecting spouse, for premeditated plans of extermination is TV new media's favorite. Guilt is emotional avoidant for a reason. They don't want you to know and are busy hiding it. If they can't hide it, will say and do ANYTHING to get you or themselves apart. The things cowards will do are beyond comprehension. So thank God for having delivered you away from your ex's harm, it is inherently for your good..
The concept of sleeping with an enemy who stabs their spouse in the back, is fundamentally an antagonist who is against life...yours! I've accepted the power of not wanting a person to be in my life who doesn't want my life to flouish. As a fact, I will waste no time holding the door open! Don't get me wrong, I too took the emotional journey getting to this point. These gals are angels and their wisdom pulled my head out of the clouds. The main thing, is for you to protect yourself
One biggie.. you have to let go of your ex! Have to stop comparing your life to his, no matter how hard. and the what ifs an whys! You are never going to get answers to a lot of the whys? I always say once you realize that by thinking about an ex, reliving memories ( they were not all good ones either) you start to realize that an ex is now controlling your life after a divorce, and he is not even in your life. I call that taking up good real estate in your brain and life. If you work at ridding him from your thought process, you will move forward an one day not think of him at all.> Then a week, month etc etc. Believe some of us, stop letting him in your life via thoughts.
As to quality men out there , do the work first on you.. you are not ready yet, in my humble opinion. Finding a new person is not going to fix your life and if you are not ready, it may not help at all. That takes time, and trust some of oldies here, if you want that, it will happen. But you need to work on you, get ex out of your life. I never buy the soulmate stuff. Make that plural.. soulmates if you think that your ex was the only one for you in your life, ask any one who has other relationships, before marriage and after. I am that person. There are other oldies on here too who will say the same, life after divorce can mean someone new also! Millions of men out there, there are great ones!
You have to give up the ex first. Get him out of your head. Fear drives a lot of us to want an ex back, or dream of a life we were not really living in marriage. He is gone. You can't make someone love you, and you sure the heck don't want to be married to someone who doesn't want to be married to you!
You are doing all the right things, therapy, journal etc. Have you thought about going back to work? Education? You are learning to live alone, and I know that is hard, but being lonely and alone are different. I was shocked when I came to DS, I was divorced barely a month how may women had never ever been alone or lived on their own! Make a list of all the good things about living alone. Or a gratitude list. What you have, not what you do not. Like I said you are doing all the right things! Focus on you, I know that is hard for some of you moms. But this is your time to do that. I know you can (( HUGS))
Was your ex not cheating on the OW with you and with the all of the other wormen in the picture? He will not change. Don't waste any sleep on him! Congrats on the healthy living style! You won't regret it!
I want to commend you for going back to school and getting your degree also. That will help, and take advantage of anything social that college has to offer. There may be a group on campus for older students! AND the weight loss.. many of us have experienced that and it is not a bad thing, embrace that.. and on my side I want to say, I gained some of my weight loss back. So keep that up.. I can't eat when under stress.. so being happy after divorce, I gained some back! Hang in there, you are doing so many right things. Now is not Forever is my therapists advice.. and I always pass that on. Best to you!
As far as comparing your EX's life to yours....FORGET IT...you are doing tons better than him. Think about it. He is getting married to an adulteress and she is marrying a cheater.....if they will do it with you, they will do it to you. Can you imagine the paranoia? No thanks. And just because your son goes to her family for things doesn't mean he likes them more or better. He probably figures it's better than staying home alone or his father might be guilting him to go.
Kim
The most helpful thing my therapist drilled into my head when I was in the throes of divorce was "Be GENTLE with YOURSELF." You have had one loss compounded by another and I feel for you. That's all the more reason not to put too much pressure on yourself and try to measure your progress by anyone else's.
I was almost 54 when my divorce was finally final back in March 2007. Since then, I met someone new and fell in love again. He and I were engaged to be married in March of this year BUT then some things happened and, well, I'm now living 1,100 miles away and starting out all over again. It's scary and unsettling but what I learned through my divorce was this: I WILL BE OK. YOU will be, too. Just remember that all of this is a learning experience and that God will keep his arms around you if you ask for some help.
I will also testify that the timeline drtexdi talked about is absolutely true. I have always heard it that for every 5 years of a relationship, it takes 1 year to fully move beyond it. It doesn't mean that you have to put your life on hold for that whole length of time, but your thinking and feelings will gradually change with the passage of time. It's a good time for personal reflection, soul searching and spiritual exploration. Take advantage of it, my dear. It's like getting a big "Do-Over" in life that most people never get.
I will hold you in my thoughts and prayers and remember that we are all here to support you in any way we can. Big squeezy hugs to you!
I can't believe your ex would do that to you when you were grieving for your brother, and in front of the kids is just heartless. That alone should help you to see that he is not who your dreams and wishes want him to be. You're going to be far better off without him. Let him go. I'm with the others in that he will not change. He'll most likely repeat the cheating. Don't lose too much sleep over wondering what he's doing with 'her' that he refused to do with you. They do anything during the honeymoon phase. Once they've been together a while, the truth will enter the relationship, and your ex will reveal his true self.
You said you thought you'd already come to grips with everything and let him go. I've found that things keep happening that bring back the sadness and the longings for the dreams I've lost, I go through all the hurt again and I get sad and I get angry - again. This seems to be the way of it, and each time I go through a setback like that, I come up stronger. These days, I can handle unexpected contact a whole lot better.
One trick I use is - I list all the things he did that I am glad I don't have to put up with any more. By the time I finish going through that list which is quite long, I am glad to say goodbye to him again.
I think you're handling things really well and have done all the healthy things you need to do to get past the divorce. Handling a death as well makes it that much harder. I had quite a setback when I lost my mum last year but it didn't happen until about 3 months after she died. It took me while to realise what was going on. That's where a good therapist comes in. If you keep seeing yours from time to time, or join the DivorceBusters, you'll have someone who can tell you why you react the way you do to things.
I'm not at all surprised you've reacted this way to news of your ex getting married. I'm not looking forward to the day I hear that, either.
big hugs and lots of love
kamary
My ex also remarried as scant six months after the ink was dry on our divorce decree. He married the skank ho who helped destroy our marriage. He was also unbelievably mean to me during the separation and divorce and is still Mr. Nasty on occasion, but he never confronts directly. He knows I won't tolerate his bullshit and I will sic my attorney on him in a heartbeat.
I did struggle as well when I heard of the engagement. No one from his side of the family wanted to tell me for fear I would be hurt, but my dear former sister in law realized I needed to be told so I could adjust to this new reality, and I was grateful for that. I also went through a few months of sadness and confusion, but oddly on the actual day of their marriage, I felt nothing. I went out with friends and just forgot it.
This divorce journey is a circular journey. Different things will trigger sadness, anger, depression, or confusion. It's all part of the process and you just have to feel and deal. You have done a lot of amazing things on your journey to healing and I commend for that. One thing I would suggest is don't be afraid to talk to a counselor about this. I've had to go back for a little "attitude adjustment" with my counselor last year to help with some residual divorce stuff. It really helped.
I know you can get through this. You are stronger than you realize.
Sending big hugs!!!
Kindest regards,
Kim