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own up vitamin Junkies
lostonrye
We know who you are,Have you had your daily vitamin fix?
nearly everyone one seems to be taking something A-z and all the other strange sounding stuff.
When the scientists say they are a waste of money they are probably mostly correct I would rather believe them than the vitamin makers and sellers.
And every week there seems to be a new miracle pill to add to the list. anti co enzyme factor 10e f c will make you feel like a 25 year old woman.
Well personally I don't need a pill for that.
I have taken all kinds of stuff just on a whim when I had more money than sense, I can honestly say I felt no better when taking it all. Except maybe a placebo effect from thinking I am doing my health some good.
But with all the stuff I am taking from the Doc now, I get all the placebo effect from the real stuff
Vitamin junkies are flushing their money down the toilet, says nutritionist
Unless you have particular dietary needs, vitamin supplements are probably a waste of money and may even be harmful, a nutritionist told a meeting at the British Science Festival
Oranges Around 75% of the vitamin C in expensive high-dose supplements ends up being flushed down the toilet. Orange anyone? Photograph: PA Photograph: Rui Vieira/PA
Some of us wouldn't dream of starting the day without imbibing a carefully considered combination of vitamins, minerals and biochemical supplements. These are taken safe in the knowledge (or delusion?) that we will benefit from good health, longer life and a general feeling of wellbeing.
Speaking yesterday at the British Science Festival, Professor Brian Ratcliffe of Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen argued that most people should simply consume a varied diet containing a number of different vitamins and minerals.
The large number of "worried well" in the UK who take supplements with a "better safe than sorry" attitude are wasting their money while feeding the multi-billion-pound vitamin industry.
Take vitamin C. Despite very little clinical evidence supporting beneficial effects of consuming ultra-high doses of vitamin C, these supplements have become popular for "warding off colds" and other infections. Supplements that contain 1.5g of vitamin C (the equivalent of more than 20 oranges) per dose are widely available. But around 75% of the vitamin ends up down the toilet, said Professor Ratcliffe. Our kidneys simply remove it from the bloodstream.
If you are under 65 and worried about your nutrition he suggests you would be better off visiting a dietician before buying expensive multi-vitamin complexes. There is also a wealth of information available online.
Vitamin supplements do have a role to play for certain groups, he said. For example folic acid is recommended during pregnancy, and over-65s are at risk from vitamin D deficiencies.
On the flipside, some groups are at risk from higher dosages of particular vitamins. Recent research suggests vitamin E supplements can be harmful to smokers.
Presenting his work in collaboration with the Nutrition Society, Professor Ratcliffe argued that research has clearly established at what level we become deficient in a particular vitamin â and the level (if any) at which a vitamin becomes toxic â but has failed to establish with confidence how much of a certain vitamin we should take for "optimum" health effects.
He said the health benefits of a particular vitamin tend to increase as intake rises above an established minimum until an optimum is reached, past which there is no extra benefit and in some cases there is harm. The optimum level varies according to sex, age and many other factors, making it impossible to give an ideal dose that would be suitable for everyone.
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nearly everyone one seems to be taking something A-z and all the other strange sounding stuff.
When the scientists say they are a waste of money they are probably mostly correct I would rather believe them than the vitamin makers and sellers.
And every week there seems to be a new miracle pill to add to the list. anti co enzyme factor 10e f c will make you feel like a 25 year old woman.
Well personally I don't need a pill for that.
I have taken all kinds of stuff just on a whim when I had more money than sense, I can honestly say I felt no better when taking it all. Except maybe a placebo effect from thinking I am doing my health some good.
But with all the stuff I am taking from the Doc now, I get all the placebo effect from the real stuff
Vitamin junkies are flushing their money down the toilet, says nutritionist
Unless you have particular dietary needs, vitamin supplements are probably a waste of money and may even be harmful, a nutritionist told a meeting at the British Science Festival
Oranges Around 75% of the vitamin C in expensive high-dose supplements ends up being flushed down the toilet. Orange anyone? Photograph: PA Photograph: Rui Vieira/PA
Some of us wouldn't dream of starting the day without imbibing a carefully considered combination of vitamins, minerals and biochemical supplements. These are taken safe in the knowledge (or delusion?) that we will benefit from good health, longer life and a general feeling of wellbeing.
Speaking yesterday at the British Science Festival, Professor Brian Ratcliffe of Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen argued that most people should simply consume a varied diet containing a number of different vitamins and minerals.
The large number of "worried well" in the UK who take supplements with a "better safe than sorry" attitude are wasting their money while feeding the multi-billion-pound vitamin industry.
Take vitamin C. Despite very little clinical evidence supporting beneficial effects of consuming ultra-high doses of vitamin C, these supplements have become popular for "warding off colds" and other infections. Supplements that contain 1.5g of vitamin C (the equivalent of more than 20 oranges) per dose are widely available. But around 75% of the vitamin ends up down the toilet, said Professor Ratcliffe. Our kidneys simply remove it from the bloodstream.
If you are under 65 and worried about your nutrition he suggests you would be better off visiting a dietician before buying expensive multi-vitamin complexes. There is also a wealth of information available online.
Vitamin supplements do have a role to play for certain groups, he said. For example folic acid is recommended during pregnancy, and over-65s are at risk from vitamin D deficiencies.
On the flipside, some groups are at risk from higher dosages of particular vitamins. Recent research suggests vitamin E supplements can be harmful to smokers.
Presenting his work in collaboration with the Nutrition Society, Professor Ratcliffe argued that research has clearly established at what level we become deficient in a particular vitamin â and the level (if any) at which a vitamin becomes toxic â but has failed to establish with confidence how much of a certain vitamin we should take for "optimum" health effects.
He said the health benefits of a particular vitamin tend to increase as intake rises above an established minimum until an optimum is reached, past which there is no extra benefit and in some cases there is harm. The optimum level varies according to sex, age and many other factors, making it impossible to give an ideal dose that would be suitable for everyone.
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You post so many informative articles Lost and we appreciate all that you do. I know your intentions weren't to belittle anyone. I think discussing this is good. We're trying to find our way after losing our foundation.It hasn't been an easy time. I thank everyone who is working to keep the group afloat. We can make it an inviting place to visit for encouragement.
We are not only having too few posters Now the lurkers are leaving,
Arline Now is the time for leadership,Call an extraordinary meeting of the board, may be file for chapter 11 protections?
I'm trying to keep this quiet, We cannot afford to loose any more lurkers
We will have no one to read our posts and then where will we be
Up Sh1t creek without a paddle
First, I must defend Lost's post on vitamins. Although I agree that most vitamins are overrated, it is up to the individual to either take or not take supplements, No one here, including Lost, is dictating what you should do. The opinions expressed herein are just that -opinions. So take it or leave it, For someone to leave the group because they dont approve of a topic is bizarre as far as I'm concerned. I didnt see any post from any lurker attesting to their disagreement with Lost.
Second, I have to disagree with part of Lesa's post. Yes, I guess its alright to lurk, but to tell you the truth I find it very difficult to learn or respond to a lurker. I cant read invisible ink, We have support groups for just that. We all have health problems and playing a game or two isnt so bad. I think lurkers are lurking to see what's going on, not necessarily to learn. If they wanted to learn or participate they would. And a post or topic made by Lost or anyone else can be disputed or discussed by being in the group. A dont think a lurker has the right to 'leave' because they dont like something. They're not here in the first place.
As Lesa said, this group is trying very, very hard to adhere to Goldi's wishes and her wishes were to keep this group going. We are trying but if people dont post the group will disappear. Its up to you, We can do just so much,
But simple taking supplements willy Nilly is not the answer.
People who lack certain vitamins in spite of a good diet are often not absorbing them
I this is the case then you can take and pee out as much as you like of a certain vitamin and its not likely to be of any benefit.
There is a great deal of difference from taking a vitamin as a research aid than just going into the health food shop and asking for a recommendation
Its all too likely to be the one they are pushing this week or this months best seller
The latest on the web is this acai berry . with ads by people saying they swear by it
As though they were suffering from all kinds of things until this obscure berry was discovered with hardly any research to be a cure.
Most of this is snake oil stuff Its absurd, preposterous to believe, The claims of the health food salesmen.
Personally I'm going to have myself frozen when I go and hope to be resurrected some time in the future
when they have a cure.
Its an expensive business though. So I'm just going to have the My head Done