wonderful and i agree -- I'm all for seeking Him and finding Him - because we seek Him - best thing I ever managed in my life was to stop rebelling and start obey what/when/where & how as I receive and understand
allready lived a piece of hell on earth and care for no more - thankyou no thankyou --interesting post thank you---God Bless

I wonder how many people, even Christians know this truth? Hell really is separation from God. Someone looking for God actually posted "What is hell?" on the bipolar board. Most of the people there did not have a clue - just one other Christian.

It doesn't matter where we are, when it is in our life or after our life is done. If we are without God, we are in hell. If we are with God, we will make it no matter what trial or tribulation comes our way. Praise the Lord for this wonderful post.

Thank God he lifts us out of our despair when we see that he is able and willing to do it!

Sister,
you want nice? or true?

I am writing my reply in between yours.

I am your friend in this.

yours:
When the Lord cast out satan and his angels they became seperated from God. Therefore they were cast into hell.

They were cast down to earth.

Hell is not open for buisiness yet.Rev. mentions that.

Until then we have to study Hadi, the rich man, Abraham and the poor man?

The lake of fire is a real place with resurrected bodies.

Hell is not just a state of existence.

yours:
Hell is a seperation from God and His love.

God is all present.

Hell may include a form of separation from God but it's a lot worse.

yours:
Only we can cause our own hell.


The natural man does not even want to be near God, he is not subject to the law of God neither in deed can be.Ro 8

yours:
By denying God and His love and Gift of Salvation, we have hell on earth.

I doubt that the crime bosses feel that they need to be closer to God.
yours:
When we seek the Lord, we are in His Holy presence and are in heaven.

Man does not seek after God, he seeks after false religions and secularism and self worship.

Except a man be born again he can not see the kingdom of God John 3-3
this means that regeneration has to happen first, before that moment man is dead, blind,and and is a natural enemy of God.

You are all using experiential theology to validate what is true.

We make discussions but only after we are alive.

people don' t come alive by making decisions but living ones make decisions

Heaven is not a state of being either but a real place
and no one seeks after God
yours:
To be seperated from Him is hell. To be with Him and to seek His face and His will in all things is to have heaven on earth.

I think we should consult Jesus and the marters on that.
yours:
Although we all here have our own trials; I believe we can still seek Him and find Him here.

You give man too much glory to fallen, dead and sinful man.

Jesus said that no man can come to him unless the father which send me draws him.John 6-44

I believe in God's diagnosis of man in Romans 1-18-32 must read.

Have you ever read Romans?

This is the age of man and man thinks that he is pretty good.

yours:
His Glory is from everlasting to everlasting.

We can all agree on that.
When the Son shall make us free then are we free indeed.
It's great that the Lord makes so many children for Himself.
We got begotten, we got born again and we got resurrected with Christ.

AMAZING GRACE.


ted