Judy asked me to post this here. Thank you Judy. God bless you

If any of you ever take anti-biotics, which we probably all have, you really need to watch out for this particular anti-biotic.....it can destroy your body and your life. Please pray for kathilee, as I think she's suffering from this particular drug right now. Please pray for her to be brought back to health.

This is totally fear-mongering and nonsense! I was just on Cipro for an intestinal infection I picked up in Mexico. I think it saved my life! And no side effects, which I certainly cannot say for many other drugs I have to take.

Anyone can have a bad reaction to a particular med. I was on a chemo drug called Actemra last year, and I still have not recovered. But I met a lady when I was getting my infusion, and she said that same drug saved her life!

So praying for Kathikee, but which drugs we take should be between our doctor and U.S., and not based on a YouTube video!

Well, after watching that video, I'd have to be in dire straits before ever considering that drug. Even the doctor there said it shouldn't be given unless there's a big problem. I asked kathilee to post this here as it sounded like it might be relevant to a lot of us, if not all of us. Glad it worked for you, Marlene, and helped you.

I was just on Cipro less than a year ago , in a strong antibiotic cocktail for H Pilori bacteria a very nasty one that is hard to get rid of. it cuases ulcers and other nasty things and is thought t also contribute to causing cancer.
I am very thankful, I noow eat anything and no pain no bleeds, no more diahrea and constipation either.

My doctor is careful, and he weighs pros and cons and the situation. I am highly allergic to Sulfa drugs, each time I had them it became worse, just as others are allergic to pennecillin. there is so much out there, hoaxes, quacks, well intentioned people too who push a falsehood.
Trust your doctor, if he/she isnt doing what you feel is right seek other opinions

Doctors are not informed of the severe consequences as the pharmaceutical companies are not reporting all the adverse affects of the drugs. Millions of people have permanent nerve damage. I am currently in a support group with over 2500 members affected, This is not fear mongering its the complete truth. I want to save people from the serious effects of these drugs. I have read the repots of the rats given these drugs and they di permanent damage to the DNA mitochondria. Proven that the drugs not only goes directly to the cell of the bacteria to destroy it but also to healthy cells and destroys them. I have been unable to walk and had partial paralysis, and nerve pain tendinitis in my hips and knees and wrists and cartilage breakdown. You can do the research if you don't believe me. I had 3 doctors tell me all my troubles are from the drug and I also have a friend who is extremely ill from Levaquin. Don't just take any medication your doctor advises. My doctor apologized to me and doctors are only people who make mistakes too. I was given it for a UTI which the culture came back normal

That's really hurtful what you said Marlene. I have short of breath too its affected my lungs and I haven't been able to work for 4 weeks. These medications have caused death, in many people. There are many other antibiotics which are strong enough without these severe debilitating side effects

Here is a letter by a pharmacist

"I’m Going to Ruffle Feathers but I’ll Tell You Anyway
By Suzy Cohen on November 22, 2014 in Drug Muggers, General ·

What if you had the chance to change your medicine or physician and it would change the course of your life, would you do it? My blog this week was inspired by a fan I met at a book signing who hugged me with gratitude for saving his life with a column I wrote warning people about a side effect, and what to do. He changed his medicine and his doctor and he thrives today. He made me promise to write another out-spoken column with current tips and warnings so Chris, this one’s for you and a million others reading me this week:

Antibiotics- A few popular antibiotics affect DNA similar to some chemotherapy agents. If you’re sensitive to them, you could pay a neurological price that causes sudden and serious neuropathy and degrees of brain damage. The drugs that the FDA is concerned about belong to the fluoroquinolone class, and already have a black box warning for increasing the risk of tendon ruptures. But I’m telling you that more reports have come in with accusations of neurological damage. Personally, I would only use these for life-threatening infections that were unresponsive to older regular antibiotics. I wouldn’t take them if I had a regular old urinary tract or sinus infection.

Acid blocking drugs- The “proton pump inhibitors” sold over-the-counter and by prescription are such strong drug muggers of magnesium that they can cause fatal heart arrhythmias over time. Even the FDA agrees and issued a black box warning regarding this. Magnesium deficiency causes muscle pain too. If you take this class of acid suppressors on a daily basis, I highly recommend you supplement with a high-quality magnesium formula to minimize your risks. The supplement is taken 4 to 6 hours away from the drug. Mineral deficiencies from these types of drugs can weaken your bones. Do you love me for telling you this, or think I’m crazy? Doesn’t matter, the studies back me: Long-term or chronic daily use has been linked to increase fractures of the spine, hip and wrists.

Thyroid medicine- Drugs that are known generically as “levothyroxine” don’t work until your body activates them. Some of you do that easily, but some of you don’t and need supportive minerals and vitamins, or another drug. Speaking of thyroid, I should also tell you that conventional TSH blood tests are incapable of detecting thyroid disease until you’re very sick. Better tests include Free T3, Reverse T3, the ratio of these thyroid hormones, as well as a complete antibody panel. In case you are interested my custom formula to support your thyroid, check out my other website for ThyroScript. Click Here

Pain relievers and autoimmune drugs- If you live in chronic pain of any sort, or take autoimmune disease drugs, then you should test yourself for Lyme disease. This tick-borne infection causes a spinning dial of symptoms that confuses the best practitioners. You may be misdiagnosed with lupus, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, hypothyroidism, bipolar, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia or others. Testing is key to uncovering this infection which mimics about 300 diseases. If positive, you’ll need antibiotics. I’m passionate about this because my sweet husband was misdiagnosed by 30+ doctors who didn’t know how to test correctly!

If you would like much more helpful information, check out my book, “Drug Muggers‘ for loads more information.

Read more about the drug-mugging effect here Drug Muggers Cause Palpitations and Leg Cramps

Suzy Cohen, RPh

Yes, many people take it and are not affected.... Yet. In fact there are many in the flouroquoolone toxicity forum that have taken it and was not affected the first or second and some times third time they have taken it. They too trusted thier Doctors to do what"s best, but the last time they took it, did them in. The insert says to call doctor is you get an adverse reactoin. The problem being that once the damage has been done there isn't much the Doctor can do. Do you really want to take that risk? You see, it seems to be a toxicity issue. Everyboedies thesshold of how much of this class of drug they can toerate without reacting is different, the catch ,of course being, where is your threshhold ?You won't know until -too late- damage done that may take months to years to recover. Do you really want to take that chance?

Down through history what was 'fear mongering' turned out to be true, after much damage. Thalidamide, asbestos, agent orange, were all non existent, until they were proven deadly. It isn't fear mongering to point out the truth.

There are quite simply, side effects to every drug. I have the Canadian CPS, which has the side effects in medical terms, for every drug on the market in Canada. If there is a brand new drug, I photocopy the page from my pharmacist. I weigh the good benefits versus the bad side effects and decide if I can go with the side effects to receive the benefit.

I was on a drug called Actemra last year, that destroyed my stomach (a cancer drug) and also did not work well. I went off of it. I was on another cancer drug, methotrexate, which in combination with another drug gave me 100% remission of Rheumatoid Arthritis. But the methotrexate was damaging my liver badly, and my doctor and I agree I had to go off, and I have not been back on it, nor found another combination to work as well.

I am an informed consumer, because I have a severely compromised auto-immune system, due to Rheumatoid Arthritis and the biologics (cancer drugs) which are used to treat it. I was on Rituxan for 3 years, and it has permanently damaged my lungs, too. I have had a significant drop in lung function, and despite exercise, I can not walk up a few steps without panting, and I am taking 4 drugs to help me breath.

BUT, I would NEVER tell anyone to NOT use that drug. I know quite a few people on it, who have had excellent results and no side effects. And since I was just on the drug you mentioned, and it did not affect, me, and apparently not Norma either, we approach the realm of fear mongering, with this hysterical video.

Now if you had come on and asked for prayer, (which I am praying for you) because of a rare side effect from the flouroquolone drugs, I would have no problem and support and encourage you to seek help and alternative treatments.

If you know anything about science, a double blind study is used with LARGE numbers of people to discover whether the side effects are real or placebo. Now, as I said, there are some people who react to some drugs in strange and horrible ways, and I am sorry about that!

But 2500 people is NOT a large number of people in medical terms. And it is not a double blind, controlled study. There could be interactions with other drugs, or herbs or environment. To say nothing of placebo effect.

I am allergic to penicillin, and Cipro is one of the few drugs I can take. I was getting sicker and sicker, not able to keep food in me, getting dehydrated, and Cipro stopped it dead, and my intestines are feeling better than in years.

Next time you want to post something about your illness, try starting with your personal story. Then add some scientific documents showing the dangers of this drug, not some hysterical youtube video, citing individual cases, instead of proper documentation. Warning people against a drug which is a necessity for life is simply not appropriate.

Nothing like the internet to promote questionable causes. Sometimes, we just get stuck with medical side effects to save our lives! I would have been dead as a baby without modern medicine, but my life is now frail. I am willing to accept that trade off.

I'm sorry you are suffering Kathilee, but I don't think you can compare Cipro, a tested drug, which two of us in this forum have used with NO side effects, to dangerous and deadly substances like agent orange (designed to kill foliage and everything else!), asbestos which was never adequately checked back in the day, or thalidomide, which was not properly tested on animals before it was distributed. When ALL the babies born with thalidomide deformities were discovered, the drug was removed from the market. Besides, it is just common sense not to take a new and untested drug while pregnant. My mother, myself and everyone I know did not take ANY drugs during pregnancy to avoid this kind of problem.

Fear mongering is when you warn people against a hazard that has a small chance of affecting most people, while denying great benefit for others.

While we want to support you in your suffering, I truly believe that God is in control. He is going to use this for good in your life, if you let him! Here is the verse God gave me when I had to go off my RA meds and lost my voice, (my singing voice forever) for a failed reconstruction foot surgery. God has been faithful in giving me hope through my suffering. Focus on the unseen, the eternal, and you will be much farther ahead spiritually.

" Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, 4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us." Romans 5:3-5

kathilee had sent me this video in a private chat, and I thought it was important for people to know about, so I wrote her back and asked her to post that here. I don't think it's advisable to label it as "fear-mongering". People can take what they like from this information and ignore the rest. Personally, I'm not anxious to ever take this drug unless I absolutely have to.

I have an old fishing buddy that is going through the same as the teacher. He has lost everything. He was as hardcore a fisherman as I am. We would fish 20 hrs straight through and sleep for 3 hrs and back at it again. He has not seen a fish or a boat in 2 years. He was over prescribed Cipro and has not been able to do much of anything since. I thought he was full of it at first but later found he was VERY sick from this stuff. Have had Phil in my prayers since and am still praying for him.

One good thing that has come from this is he did find Christ.

Sorry this happened to your friend, too, fishboy. I don't trust doctors to watch out for me too well. You're lucky if you get a 15 minute appointment, and luckier still if they let you say more than 2 sentences. Thanks for sharing about your friend....that is a real shame.