I'm sorry for your sadness, edr. Estrangement is such a difficult reality to except, but we can always find peace in the knowledge that Our Lord understands the pain of rejection, and welcomes us into His very special family.
I will be praying.......hugs and blessings.

I am so sorry. You are where I was about a year ago. There wasn't a day that went by that I didn't cry over my ES, and my GS. I now have two GS by him, one of which I have never even seen. I am not trying to give you any advice, but I can only say what helped me. After years of crying, and pleading to the Lord to bring my ES back to me, I finally just accepted the situation. It has brought me tremendous relief. I have not, however, given up on him. I pray for him and his children every single day, and I will continue to do so. But my prayers have changed. I don't ask for God to bring him back to US...but to bring my son back to the Lord. I know that when that happens, everything else will fall into place. I won't lie, I still have my bad days. But they are nowhere near as numerous as they were before. Instead of am thankful for the people I do have in my life, and I concentrate on them. God bless you.

edr, estrangement is very painful. It is a loss without closure.

Please try to give your dear ES and gc into the Lord's hands. He is the only one who can change hearts in His way and in His time. We never give up hope in what the Lord can do and mostly we never stop praying. However, we must with the strength of the Lord press on each day for our well being. Stress is not good for us. Each day is a gift. Praying for you to have peace. We care!

I'm so sorry you're in pain. It's good that you've come here for help. My husband is protective and doesn't like to see me suffer either. This is a good place to come when you need to express what's in your heart. We get it. When one of us is down, the rest help lift us up. And we pray for each other. Hugs and prayers.

There is so much unnecessary pain because of hard heartedness.. It is not easy to deal with the speciation and you often wonder what they are doing or how much your gc have changed. I also pray that things will be different one day.

You all are such a great friends, i pray alot and wonder why things have happenend to me and dh,sometime we sit home and trouble comes to us by phone,mail or knock at door.Ever since 2009 my life has been in turmoil and still going.I told dh we must have USE US on our forhead and we could write abook its so hard to believe the hurt,heartache,sickness,isolation and feeling of no one cares we have endured and still going through,and thinking you have friends from your job but when you no can work they are gone also,i guess out of site out of mind,but i have found all of you great support!!! thank you !!

We care, edr.

I am sorry for the pain you are going through, edr.

I'm sorry edr, I've cried too in the shower so no one will hear and in the car. I will be praying.

I don't think there is any pain that surpasses that of a mother's broken heart. So much of our hopes and dreams for our lives are wrapped up in our children and when things turn into a nightmare, it hits us so deep on so many levels and is like a nuclear bomb was dropped into our lives. I think there just comes a point in the aftermath that we accept and start rebuilding. That point of acceptance comes when we (by God's grace) decide we are not going to live in this devastation. And even after acceptance, we still stumble in that rebuilding but we persevere because we cannot change what has happened and we don't want to live in the pain anymore. Our worlds have become a different place and we have to find a way to live productive Christian lives in that new world. Slow, hard, heartbreaking work, but you'll get there.
And I understand about your comment regarding grandchildren that "it's not all it's cracked up to be". When I see children of godly parents being baptized, I can't help but nearly cry wondering what kind of hell they may end up putting their parents (and grandparents) through. Now, of course, not all children will be that way, but having been through and seen what I've seen, my thoughts go there. And even if you have just one child that does this, the impact it has on the family ruins the idyllic scenario we had envisioned. Especially if the child becomes an abusive ac.

If I could tell young Christian mothers anything it would be "Do your best to be a loving, diligent, Christian wife and mother, bathe it all in prayer, but know that the results may not turn out to be that for which you longed and worked. The results are with God. Our duty is to be faithful with the charge He has given us." I truly believe if I had KNOWN this from the beginning, I would have been more resilient when it all came crashing down. I know it now and I go to sleep with a clear conscience knowing I gave it my all and bathed it all in prayer. What God does with that is His responsibility.

I would wish for you edr, peace but I don't think we can ever have peace as long as we have ec. i do believe it is possible to be delivered from the mental and spiritual anguish that having ec brings. And so I pray that God will deliver your heart and mind of this torment. xxx

You all are so supportive and i am so grateful. Our es has not called for sometime and my dh brokedown and called, and asked why he hasnt called es remark" been busy,working" he said he is tired of arguements and that we argued with him his entire life. And it has just reopened my broke heart, with all he said making it sound likewe are crazy,i told my dh not tocall that i am not going to beg for them to talk to me anymore.And when i text him and mentioned my gs he ignored it like he isnt going to say anything about him,how can my son and dil be this mean.

Sorry edr. Let's pray for God to change their hearts as only He can.

When will we learn to stop the hurt we are placing on ourselves, how dowe get to that part of this nightmare,i know no one has the answer,and how do we let go of the little hope,

I believe we keep our EC and prayer and let God work. I personally don't think we ever give up hope.

God help us to live each day in the way you call us to live. Each day is a gift of God.

God help us all with this problem Amen