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I have some questions. If God's love is unconditional then why would he send people who don't believe in him to hell for eternity? With science the way it is today how could you blame someone for not believing? Sending someone to eternal hell for something so petty is not unconditional love. Then you have the hatred for gay people. Homosexuality exists in nature. You can't choose who you're sexually attracted to. Why ignore certain verses but go crazy about one verse? Is not the bible flawed by mans touch?
.I know God is pure love
Because of his love he sent his son to give us pay for our sins and go and sin no more.
It is hard today...I have never seen so many confused people especially young people....they are confused who they are and who they are supposed to be...It is sad where this world is going.
God doesn't send anyone to hell.....that is mans choice.
As far as being Gay...I heard pastors say being gay isn't the sin...having sexual activities with someone when not married or having sexual activities with the same sex is when it is a sin.
The Bible is not a flaw....its man changing the Bible to fit the life of living today....
Why would a loving God send anyone to hell? I have a hard time with this. It seems to me that if God truly loved us, we wouldn't have to worry about judgment or hell, would we?
If someone deliberately commits a crime and is caught, who is to blame if he’s found guilty and sentenced to jail?
Is the judge to blame–or is he
If you think about it, the lawbreaker is to blame for what has happened to him, not the judge. Yes, the judge sentenced him–but he alone broke the law, and he alone is to blame for the penalty he received. To put it another way, the judge didn’t send him to jail; the judge was only following the law. Instead, the man sent himself to jail because of his crime. He can’t blame the judge–he can only blame himself.
And this is what happens to us when we break God’s law. Yes, God is “the Lord, the righteous Judge” (2 Timothy 4:8)–and when we deliberately turn our backs on Him and break His law, we stand condemned. But we are to blame for what happens to us, not God. We are the ones who have broken the law, and we can only blame ourselves for the consequences.
But listen: God has provided another way! We don’t have to pay the penalty for our sins and face hell–and the reason is because Christ has already paid it for us. By His death on the cross, Jesus took the punishment you and I deserve. We deserve judgment and hell–but He suffered them for us. Now all we have to do is trust Him for our salvation. Why not give yourself to Him today?
How do you know the Bible is true? After all, the people who wrote it could have just been making it up. I know you won't agree with me, but I can't see why we ought to believe the Bible any more than we do any other ancient book.
Have you ever taken time to read the Bible for yourself—not just a few sentences here and there, but honestly studying it to see what it really says?
The reason I ask this is because I find many people reject the Bible without ever actually reading it. Perhaps they’ve heard other people talk about it, or they may have been exposed to it slightly when they were children—but they haven’t seriously examined it for themselves. But since the Bible claims to answer life’s deepest questions, doesn’t it make sense to at least listen to what it has to say? Of course it does.
This is why I challenge you to discover the Bible for yourself. Take one of the Gospels (which tell us about the life of Jesus) and read through it carefully. (I often recommend people start with the Gospel of John.) As you do, ask yourself if it sounds like something people just made up, or if instead it rings true.
I think you’ll find it rings true—and for a very good reason: Jesus Christ really lived, and He really showed us what God is like. As Peter later wrote, “We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty” (2 Peter 1:16). Most of all, you will discover that Christ loves you, and life’s greatest joy comes from following Him.
both answers are by Billy Graham
May your day be filled with peace
God Bless You ,
Brighte
Your last question says a lot to me: "Is not the bible flawed by mans touch?"
God started with Adam. He ASKED Adam not to eat the fruit. But, Adam CHOSE not to obey.
God gave human's 120 years to repent during Noah's days.
Gen 6:3
3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”
That seems like unconditional love to me!!
And, the most importnt thing He did is:
John 3:16-17 (NIV)
16 For God so loved THE WORLD that he GAVE his one and ONLY Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 FOR GOD DID NOT SEND HIS SON INTO THE WORLD TO CODEMN THE WORLD, BUT (BIG BUT HERE!!) TO SAVE THE WORLD.....THROUGH HIM!!!
Sounds like uncondition al love to me.
Too many times, humans put conditions, and limits, on God. They put emphsize on one verse over the other. John 3:16-17 is a great exmple. Many know 3:16.....but do not remember 3:17.
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God is totally loving. The Bible says "God is love." 1 John 4:8,16.
So that is settled. I know in my experience, God's love has been with me for 35 years, since the day he saved me. He has walked with me through every valley, every height, every trial and tribulation and given me joy and peace.
But the part you are missing is that God is holy and just. That is the part of his character people who have not read the Bible, or been taught properly seem to miss!
"There is none holy like the Lord; there is none besides you; there is no rock like our God" 1 Sam. 2:2
"And one called to another and said: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory!” Isa. 6:3
"Since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:16
So what does the word "holy" mean? Here is a brief description:
"The Hebrew word for holy is “qodesh” and means “apartness, set-apartness, separateness, sacredness” and I would add that it should also be “otherness, transcendent and totally other” because God is totally above His creation and His creatures, including us. Holy has the idea of heaviness or weight of glory. In the New Testament, the word for holy is “hagios” and means set apart, reverend, sacred, and worthy of veneration.” This word applies to God because God Himself is totally other, separate, sacred, transcendent, reverend, and set apart from every created thing. Since God is spirit this is why the Third Person of the Trinity is called the Holy Spirit. He too is fully God and all three Persons of the Trinity are holy and have the weight of glory abounding in them."
God is so above us, so perfect, so pure, so righteous, so just and holy, that we actually cannot stand before him.
We cannot stand before him, because sin separates us from him.
"but your iniquities have made a separation
between you and your God,
and your sins have hidden his face from you
so that he does not hear." Isa. 59:2
Sin - what does that mean? It means "missing the mark." Not homosexuality, or abortion, or murder, although they are included. But absolutely every time you fail to meet the high standard of a loving, just and holy God.
"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," Romans 3:23
But God knows all about this. That is exactly the reason Jesus was sent to earth.
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23
In fact, God loved us while we were still sinners!
"but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8
This is the plan of salvation. That you understand that you are a sinner, repent of your sins, and believe in Jesus - that he died on the cross to take your sins away.
"because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved." Romans 10:9-10
God has graciously in his mercy given us this way to him - through Jesus. It is the plan of salvation to all who believe.
You can sit back and judge things you know nothing about, or you can sit down and read the Bible and find out the truth of what it means to be a Christian.
Because on judgement day, there are going to be no excuses for those who have heard the gospel and walked away. God wants EVERYONE to come to a knowledge of him.
"The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance." 2 Peter 3:9
So the choice is on you. Are you going to hold God accountable for things he has not done? Because I know God will hold you accountable, and you have the choice to surrender to Jesus, or go on your merry way to destruction.
God does not CHOOSE anyone for hell. We make that choice for ourselves. We condemn ourselves to hell, if we do not believe and repent.