I was raised ass/of /god with 2 ass/of god grandfather,preachers. wow ,talk about not brain washing,at least that Is what I call it .I am bipolar and use to be very a severe cutter and overdoser that is over .When I felt suicidal The church would pray the demons of suicide out of me ,so the next time I felt these feelings I just knew I had the demons in me ... wow did that mess me up and my ways of how I think about religion and how negatively it effects me .People seems to pray to ask for forgiveness for something they haven't even done yet ,like we are innately bad. Well thanks for listening I hope to make many friends here , treethinker