My narc mother ruined my life. I just quit my job because I have no idea how to stand up for myself with a bully.

If you are trying to get dad to "see the light" forget about it. He needs special therapy. My narc sister has convinced every therapist that all her problems are the fault of others.

Problem is, even when a Narc goes into therapy, he/she is fundamentally messed up that they can never see how their behaviour is responsible for what ails their children. Because, it's NEVER the Narc's fault. When they usually go into therapy, it's about how to fix someone else. When and if they are in therapy long enough to obtain a diagnosis of Narcissism, they disagree and leave. Therapists and Psychiatrists I have spoken with, especially when I was studying for my degree said, these people, the Narc's are the worst patients. They never accept or realise that they are the problem. I'm sorry, but the chances of you being able to make your Narc parent 'understand' are about as popular as eating roadkill. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be so harsh.

Welcome, Morgan! (that's my name too : ) )

How are you feeling about learning this? Was your father diagnosed as narcissistic? Lady is right in that thetapy for Ns is pretty much a lost cause due to the nature of the disease. However, you have the power to seek therapy for yourself (your brother too). I highly reccommended doing so especially if your father is an N. mine is too and going to therapy has been helpful in learning how warped my sense of reality has been and how much my childhood had affected me and now I have started to really heal. This support group has been great in understanding that I'm not alone too.

Good luck to you and please keep us posted !

I should have said it earlier, welcome. I'd definitely search for a therapist who understands Narcissism. Read a lot, ask a lot of questions, and don't give up. Focus on you healing, rather than getting your dad to realise that he has issues. We can only change ourselves, not others. All the money in the world couldn't do it for Narc's. Good luck, and I'm sorry if I jumped straight in.

Lady is so right. My mother constantly demanded that I lie lie lie so she looked good. You know what happens when you lie, someone figures it out. THen I'd have to back pedal to support the lies.
It got so I'd stopped even being social around home. But I was always trapped between a rock and a hard place at home with relatives.
And the golden child figured out that I was wrong for taking each breath and she used that righ tup to the day mom died.
SOrry, sis still does "therapy" to figure out how to "live with" the rest of us and our crazy making behaviors that ruin her life. I went to therapy with her once - at her costs. It was amazing the way all the stories were so twisted and skewwed to make her seem like a marrtyr.