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A doctor would be capable of teaching a med student how to set a broken leg and how food is digested in a
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format, but no matter what tools or resources that are laid out before them, they are of little to no use in explaining the feeling associated with a deep connection with a higher power (which I think is what they are stating is necessary) because like Nicky stated, they have no tangible proof. Of course, being a newbee here....I'm just learning & this is how I interpret this passage. :)
Live it.
Demonstrate it in your every word and action.
Don't go into details just explain that you know it to be true for you and your life and if they work the steps they will find something similar.
No one can scientifically prove that God does not exist nor that he does. It is a question of faith.
If you act in faith your sponsees will see that and act accordingly.
He focuses on this very paragraph so I'll paraphrase him here. He said that there are three expressions that he needed explaining to him to fully understand the paragraph, as follows:
Moral Psychology = The then medical profession's way of saying Spiritual Experience.
Our = the doctors'
The power of good outside our synthetic knowledge = the Power of God.
So the paragraph would read like this:
We doctors have realized for a long time that some form of SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE was of urgent importance to alcoholics, but its application presented difficulties beyond THE DOCTORS' conception. What with THE DOCTORS' ultra-modern standards, THE DOCTORS' scientific approach to everything, we are perhaps not well equipped to apply the POWER OF GOD that lie outside THE DOCTORS' synthetic knowledge.
If other words, the doctors can do little to help our alcoholism. That has certainly been my experience. However there is a power out there that is enough to completely recover from alcoholism, if we seek it and more importantly, experience it.
This passage also reminds me of what Carl Jung said to Roland Hazard when he admitted that there was nothing he could do to help him. He admitted he had been trying to bring about a huge emotional and mental rearrangment that had occurred as phenonena throughout history in the form of vital spiritual experiences, but he had failed.
The Quakers -Loving someone fully- to bring about healing from a malady
Also in the early history treating a patient with a Lobotomy it was referred to as Moral Psychology
Dr. Silkworth after many years working with chronic alcoholics states, science has not been able to bring about, with sufficient force a remedy for a number of Maladies.Alcoholism being one.So Dr. S. says to Bill W. hang on to what have Bill. .Dr. Bob gets clean and sober and through the Absolutes with The Oxford group . The early signs of World War 2, which brings misgiving with affiliation with the leaning of the Oxford group and with The Oxford Groups affiliation with drunks. Bill W.and the boys begin to gain more evidence, begin writing the Book and The Fellowship of AA is Born. Lets not forget Ebby though ,The message he was given by The Oxford Group He gave to Bill W. and after a bad case of jitters and while being locked up in the Alcoholic Ward he became sold on the ideas Ebby and The Oxford Group were offering.and Dr. S said " you better hold on to this thing Bill". A little rambling but I hope you get the point, this was how it was explained to me many yrs. ago.
One Drunk helping Another language of the heart.
Billy C..