She obviously has never been raped.What a stupid woman.I wont say what else I think.

I wouldn`t wish her on my worst enemy as you say she has never been where we have

I'm not backing her up but you have to read the whole thing, understand what she is talking about and read the follow-up comments. It's not as horrible as it sounds out of context, although I don't entirely see her point, I do get some of what she is saying.

Clearly this woman has never been raped. I have how people who haven't been put through anything like this but maybe have friends who have, think that automatically makes them an expert on the subject. I'm gonna be nice and not say what I really think of this woman.

She needs to get a clue!
I hate stupidity!

I can see what the author intended in this post however it's failed to get the message across because it has been very badly written

She is a very diluted person and very distorted thinking.

I don't think she has had much contact with real victems.

she's nuts.

never underestimate the stupidity of people.

I don't think she really understands rape!
to me she is talking jiberish but thats just my opinion

Before I judge this on face value, what is missing? What was the rest of her article? It sounds stupid and nothing more than a joke on face value like she has no idea/clue to rape...it'd be interesting to read the rest of the article to see what her point (if any) she is trying to make

WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF RETARDED ASS MONKEY HUMPING SPOONFED BULLSHIT IS THIS BITCH SMOKIN?

I read that post three times trying to see if maybe I missed something the first time. OK, yes, there ARE women out there who, for whatever reason, report a rape or claim to be raped when in truth they had sex willingly. That I will give the writer of the article. Other than that, this woman has seen to much on TV and in the movies. Whether or not an attack was violent does not equate with whether or not it was rape, where it took place does not, alcohol and drug use does not, how the person acted before the act.. nope.

The whole thing is worded horribly. I know there are people like this out there and, unfortunately, they are entitled to their opinion.

I could side with someone who said this: If you are only saying you were raped because you are angry or feel guilty you probably weren't raped.

People who make up rapes or claim rape for whatever reason make things so much harder for the rest of us.

Bottom line, I'm not sure what to make of this person. Either this person has never had any contact with someone who has been raped or she has and doesn't believe that person, or has been a victim themselves and doesn't want to accept that.

Whatever the reason, this shouldn't be out there. It's not true and I am sure it has most likely caused a few people to look at what happened to them and start questioning themselves.

What bullshit. People who don't know what they are talking about shouldn't put information like this out. It's SO harmful, to survivors and non-survivors alike.

Just so I am sure of what this person was getting at was fairly put above, may I ask to see this article in it's entirety? I believe strongly in even if someone says something I don't like, like above for example, to hear it out because there is probably a reason behind the words.

Best to all, and ignore these ignorant, profoundly false statements.

Persephone

I agree w/ Persephone b/c she's made some valid points in her post. If you can put the link to the article that would be great. I too never understand how someone couldn't fight back but I learned that sometimes people are in shocked that they cant do anything. That it's more common for someone to be in shock & freeze up then to actually fight back and scream. Lots of people aren't educated on topics like rape.

I agree with most of the input here, especially JennHeimrich. AND.... based on this, I have NO DESIRE to see the rest of the article. Whatever her "point" was supposed to be, it doesn't matter because this is just a bunch of crap not even worth looking at. So, here is to all the ignoramuses out there telling them to get a life, or get themselves locked up till they can get a life, so they will stop putting this horse sh*t around.

you can read the entire article here:


This blog post was written in 2006, by a woman who HAS been raped. (The same man also led a gang rape of her sister a month earlier. )

So I think her point is, (albeit not very eloquently put) is: ladies, don't be stupid.

She was reacting to a recent ad campaign in Britain directed at men that says unless a woman says yes, the answer is no.

Her list, (posted at the top,) was followed by this:

"So here we go with the victim mentality thing again. I so resent this, because it removes power from women. Yes, it's over the top for people to believe that a woman is to blame for being raped if she is flirtatious, but equally, to 'go in for coffee', when you know, as well as the guy knows, that coffee is only on the menu the morning after (and if you don't, then I'm telling you, ok?) is plain asking for trouble. As is getting so blotto [drunk] you can't say no. And being too polite to say no. Men are DIM and think that all women fancy them and want to have sex with them. If you start from that premise (wrong as it surely is on some counts) then you won't go far wrong."

Later in her blog's comment section she says "I guess it's a bit like Little Red Riding Hood. When you know there are wolves about, you should take the appropriate precautions. The government might be better educating the Red Riding Hoods rather than trying to change the nature of wolves."

and this...

"Rape is rape, but changing your mind after having sex when you were blind drunk isn't, and I've known women who have cried rape when they cannot remember what has happened - so how would they know?"

and this...

"Call me overly cautious, but I ...I don't go home with men when I'm drunk unless I want to have sex with them."

and this...

"If your definition of rape is the same as mine ... then I agree entirely that the rapist is to blame. However, women crying rape when they have really made a misjudgment is just as wrong, and makes rape seem a less serious crime than it is."

She wants women to take ownership for their actions. I'm not saying I agree, but just presenting the context in which she wrote her list.

Interestingly, a very wise man posted an insightful analogy that went like this...

"ponder this one. I am a white middle class late 40's male. If I go wandering around Moss Side in the early hours of the morning, drunk and with money hanging out of my pockets, and a gang of hooded young men kick the shit out of me and take my money then I assume I have been robbed. If however I accept their invitation to go for a drink, then some hours later start to feel uncomfortable and threatened and in order to placate them continue to buy them drink and drugs and fail to object when they take my remaining money by cheating at poker, have I been robbed or have I been to a party?"

...apparently not ALL men are DIM!

Clearly there are two sides to this argument, but once burned twice shy. And I have a friend who was accused of rape two weeks after he got drunk with another friends girl and had sex with her and she called rape in order to defend/excuse(?) her actions and get back with her man. My friend went to jail. He admitted guilt, (BTW) so not sure what went down and no one does, but them, but the whole point is not to get yourself in that situation in the first place.

There are times when we got drunk and taken advantage of, (and yes it's rape) and there are times when we fought as hard as we knew how, there were times when we didn't have a choice and there were times when we did but we all suffer. I think being raped makes some people more defensive and it makes others more compliant. What do you think?

Remember her comment that "the rapist is entirely to blame." That part we all can agree on. Also remember that most people are raped by those they know. Like for me, two men I'd known ALL my freaking life, so I guess it's not fair to get all worked about what some smart-ass Brit said in her blog three years ago, out of context.

Just live responsibly, with integrity and stand up for yourself and your body. You owe yourself that much.