Hey there BB :)
Sorry to hear you're feeling alienated. I get what you're saying about wanting to share ideas and stories and beautiful experiences... Yes, I was just chatting with another person (who also responded to your first chapter) about having that very sentiment. I also agree that the aim here should be to leave lonliness rather than focus on it, however, I understand it is also a place to vent and find others who may be understanding in hard times.

I can only share my own perspective with you. It will be honest and most likely not what you want to hear, but certainly said in the way of two people sharing views and not of malice.

I find that you have a wonderful talent for expessing art with the written word, however I didn't find the story you were sharing to be what I think is 'beautiful' and I really wasn't connecting with it, so I didn't continue to chat with you about it. In the same way as I might enjoy one painting and yet not like another painting... it is just down to personal taste. I love simplicity, in art and life and people... vibrant and earthy colours... again, just personal taste. I'm not much into things mysterious and 'other worldly' and definately not ghouly :)

I accept all people in their differences (as long as they aren't being harmful), and I certainly don't expect you to fit into any 'box'. But I must admit, I do get the 'feel' from your post that you are angry that others have not fit into your 'box'...

I'll try to say this without sounding awful, because I sincerely don't mean it to be. Yes, of course you have the right to be yourself and express that... everybody should. But in others also having the right to be themselves and have their own tastes... I guess they don't have to like yours if they don't like it, same as you don't have to like theirs if its not something you connect with.

I must say I'm a little suprised you haven't seemed to be able to find some like minds to converse and share your stories with... as I'm sure there are many people out there with a taste for art, writing and aesthetics similar to yours. Actually, I'm suprised there hasn't been anyone on here, for that matter!

Again, I do hope I haven't offended you. Be happy with who you are BB, and be yourself, you don't require the audience or approval of others to justify it.

Well wishes!

PS - I'm not suggesting you shouldn't write here (your writing skills are enjoyed!), but you mentioned not being able to find the writers group... put "Writers Corner" in the search box at the top of the page and it should come up.

me benbi I am not a person who enjoys reading for entertainment...but that is why I did not really read what you wrote or write a word about it on those threads...it was not a connect for me...but I did read what the others wrote and felt they were wrong going that direction to say more it is best to find another place for the writing not that you should stop...just thinking they said hey go elsewhere...that is not what this loneliness group is about....it is here to help some of us become more influxed with outside people....so I as I said do read stuff for more what people have to say than for an enjoyment of reading....wierd I know but I will read the textbook but not a novel...I have a masters degree because I got good at understanding what was being said in textbooks but I cannot for most of my life open a book and enjoy my eyes going back and forth to read unless it is a mystery or it has a personal point of view to it that is stating something I have interest in...I do enjoy audiobooks though and when I drove 8hrs nightly with a car having CD player I went to library many times to get another audiobook to listen to....just didn't involve my eyes but mind got engaged by the voice and story....not eye and story....eye and story turns me away....like I said...unless it is mystery or a plan to give new ideas....

Peaceful Greetings, Benbi,

I have often chosen creative writing to help me process my emotions, including loneliness and the like. Usually I post my writings like that either on my MySpace blog or here in the Journal. I did a little search and found a Facebook page that might be interesting for you?

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9072497653

I pray all Brightest Blessings for you and all yours, 'An it harm none, Blessed Be.
ToniAyniaNightFish...
...Family With My Beloved CroneLunaWulf And All Our Kindred Fur, Feather And Fin Spirits....

Here's the link for the Writer's Corner on DS

http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/writers-corner

I did some research on DS, in addition to Writer's Corner I found:

When No One Else Would Listen
Living Through Writing
Challenge Your Thoughts
Freewriters Group
Depression Poetry
When No One Else Would Listen
Music & Depression
A New Earth (no clue, sounds interesting)
Open Minds
Poetry Palace
Artists

I'm sure there are others, but wanted to give you some resources, support your talent and welcome you to DS!

I posted one of the My Groups listings twice, sorry...be well and happy!

well i think ur lovely my dear and agree with you about not going on and on about loneliness.yes im lonely thats why im here,and sometimes i may want to talk about that but there are other parts to me as well and i know there are other parts to u.awsum! U B U man.buggar the box!i didnt like the push away feeling that was directed at u.all cool with it not being sum peoples cupa tea and some said this respectfully and thats great.id like to say hi ben i know u can write so what else do u get up to-music-colour,do u hav pets,do u drink,do live bands or get wasted ocasionly?hahha tell me more.peace man.

Everyone Thanks for the writers links.

As per the rest, I still don't think my point was full percieved.

This isn't anything personal against me.

What is happening, is that the Lonelyness group, has become a false idenity system for people.
My story, (myth) challenged that identity with a lot of people, and it made them uncomfortable.
Of course this is mostly unconscious, and therefore it's nothing personal against me.

Although I experiance it personally, because my art medium is a personal expression.


To Dusty Kitty,

I think that we have a lot to potentially connect on.
There seems to be a slight barrier, in our perception of Beauty, other than that, I can see that you can see alot.
What do you find beautiful?



To Terrian,

Yes I love music, (I write lyrics) I also paint.
I don't have pets. (although I have always wanted to live with wolves.)
I also enjoying drinking, it is a great access to the creative.

And you?
Do you enjoy music, painting, pets, or alchol?

Sincerely
BB

Hey BB,

I'm just not sure about you... no offense intended :) One minute you are very polite and well mannered, the next you are mysterious and macabre, and telling a story that seemingly is leading up to a lesson of wisdom for all us shallow people out there who you have put in a box, the next minute you are letting rip with a few well placed expletives and seemingly speaking from the heart - which quite frankly I prefer to anything else :) - and then you are back to Mr squeaky clean, formal, mild mannnered Clark Kent again... as I said, I am a simple type and like people who are up front and happy to throw their cards on the table and show their hand. That way we all know what we're playing with, no games.

You asked me what I find beautiful... yet you haven't haven't yet responded to when I asked you what you find beautiful about the macabre... you want me to share, yet you are very selective in what you will respond to. Hmmmm, not really an equal playing field?

If you genuinely want to know a little about me... read my loneliness post on page 14 "Looking for honest opinions".

yes i do so enjoy music,everything from The Platters to Rage Against the Machine.at the mo my fav is Kings of Leon.i hav a dog called Tazer.he's a boxer cross dalmation.very obiedient.i call him my rescue dog-he's just bloody lucky i rescued him from being shot,hahahhah and he knows it,so devoted.iv always had dogs and im good with them.also a black and white cat called Maddonna.she came with the house and is a great rat catcher tho she thinks of herself as the biggest dog on the property and will guard along with the dog if people call out of the blue.its a crack up to watch- the cat all spiked up and hissing eyeing ur leg up.yes i like a drink now and then.red wine.Dolcetto and syrah by the Brown Brothers,its an ozzy wine.like a trip on the mushrooms once a season or a puff on the reefer now and then.hahhahah its a beautiful thing man.i am just who i am.i am a lover of all exspression.painting?mmm.i paint in my head wen i dance (does that count?)hahhahahha..im doing a small art piece(i spose ud call it)called birdsnests on black corral.yea cheers mate