
Infertility Support Group
In vitro fertilization is one of the most common and utilized ways of treating conception problems. This support group is dedicated to those beginning their journey with IVF and needing support. Join the community and share your experiences, advice, and story with people going through similar challenges starting a family.

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I read this article on this web site and found it very interesting. Here is part of it:
Enrich the patient population with the best patients. In the words of a famous European infertility expert, "The patients who are easiest to get pregnant get pregnant most easily". Since individual IVF couples have pregnancy likelihoods varying enormously, a key is to enrich the statistically reported population with the better patients, and to discourage, reject, or reclassify the worse. This is accomplished by a combination of positive and negative selection.
I found the rest of this article on this web site.
http://www.givf.com/library/whatisyoursuccessrate1.cfm
I know what they are talking about because there seems to be no set average success rate for IVF and IUI. It seems that it is based on what the doctors success rate is.
Enrich the patient population with the best patients. In the words of a famous European infertility expert, "The patients who are easiest to get pregnant get pregnant most easily". Since individual IVF couples have pregnancy likelihoods varying enormously, a key is to enrich the statistically reported population with the better patients, and to discourage, reject, or reclassify the worse. This is accomplished by a combination of positive and negative selection.
I found the rest of this article on this web site.
http://www.givf.com/library/whatisyoursuccessrate1.cfm
I know what they are talking about because there seems to be no set average success rate for IVF and IUI. It seems that it is based on what the doctors success rate is.
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Dr. Helpall takes all comers, doesn't refuse patients, treats everyone with IVF, almost never cancels cycles, etc. Dr. Lookgood sees only 80 of 100 patients that he screens, accepts on 60 patients into the IVF program, starts only 50 patients immediately on cycles, cancels 15 of those cycles, and so only goes to egg retrieval on 35 of the original 100. He then does successful transfers in 33 of the 35, and gets 11 pregnancies.
Dr. Helpall, on the other hand, sees 96 of the 100 patients, accepts 94, starts *everyone* immediately on protocols, cancels only 4 of the 94 cycles, and gets 80 of the 90 to transfer. THE PROBLEM is that of the *90* patients who go through a complete IVF cycle, only *12* end up with successful pregnancies. So Dr. Helpall (I like to call him "Dr. Send-My-Kids-to-College-and-Buy-My-Mercedes") has put an additional *55* patients (90 vs 35) through a complete IVF cycle for ONE additional successful pregnancy. Those odds are HORRIBLE. That is a less than 2% chance of pregnancy. And do you think that he tells those high-risk patients that they have a less than 2% chance of taking home a baby? No, he will quote the overall pregnancy rate of 12%.
What Dr. Lookgood is doing is NOT just trying to look good. He is trying to figure out WHICH patients will benefit from the procedure and actually have a reasonable chance of success if they go through the program. NOT EVERYONE will be a good candidate for IVF, and in a case like this, where most of us are paying $15K to $20K per cycle, I think that is unconscionable.
Just my two cents. Statistics lie. It all depends on interpretation.