No, not all women. Maybe just women with issues. Lol! Seriously, I know tons of women that have great self-esteem that are thin and not so thin and they feel they are beautiful and they are. Honestly, I just think some women believe that from past experience(have issues). Good luck with the fishing!

This is my theory. It may or may not have any basis in reality:

First, there are the women who are pretty now and have been pretty all their lives; these women grew up being constantly told how pretty or cute they are, and they start to associate being pretty with being loved. Then those self-conscious teen years come along, and they suddenly notice every little thing that's wrong with them, and start freaking out because they see being pretty as a defining part of who they are. So, they start wearing makeup, or dieting, or obsessing over how they dress--and the more they think about it, the more they come to believe that they are just no longer pretty and that no one will ever love them again because of it. Girls don't realize they're doing this; if they did, maybe they'd stop.

Then there are the beautiful women who were unattractive when they were growing up--or who at least weren't regularly told how pretty they are, and who saw other girls get attention for being cute. Same story here, these girls become obsessed with how unattractive they are, and they don't notice when they start to mature and grow to be beautiful. It's very hard to make one of these girls believe how attractive they really are; my older sister is one of them. It drives me insane.

So, yeah. I don't know if that made any sense to you, but it's the best I can come up with. Three cheers for those rare beauties who manage to overcome these negative feelings and who realize how attractive they really are!

I have a misguided theory on that subject.

Women believe that women become more unattractive as they get older and that men become more attractive as they age. There are too many things that tend to generate this belief.

And then there are the older non-married women that have been "damaged" by past experiences and relationships.

A man is not believed no matter what he says about a woman's attractiveness.

This is good stuff girls and it makes perfect sense. I cannot tell you how many times I would tell my last GF how beautiful she was. It was getting ridiculous. The fact is that she had been hurt very badly by a past boyfriend and she never got over it. Its tagic because I still love her but she pushed me away.

Voin, what's your point, really?

I think in general it is easy for women to have low self-esteem because we see everyone looking perfect all of the time, so after a while some women begin to feel bad about themselves. Not all and this is just in general.

My point.

My point is that women ask men to talk to them. Then they disregard whatever a man says. It's not that they really care what a man says. Women just want the interaction which causes a feeling of intimacy.

This makes men confused. Because they thought that communication is about coming to a consensus, an agreement, an understanding. Women just like to vent sometimes. They don't need it fixed. Not until they really complain about it. ;)

So, this thread was started by a guy trying to understand why women say the things they do. I'm sorry to tell him that only one woman in twenty can give him the correct answer.

And although fv says that it makes perfect sense, I dare him to come back tomorrow and still say it makes perfect sense after he's thought about it.

The reasons women say this stuff is absurd. It isn't rational. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

It's not just you, dude. I too have found that a lot of beautiful women have miserably low self-esteem; I couldn't believe it! I don't really want to prey on their insecurities, but I don't want to have to spend all my time buttering them up either. I try to pour my love into a woman whether we're talking about how beautiful she looks or the weather. Women can FEEL your heart, and they can feel when it isn't there too. It doesn't matter WHAT you say. Just try to have an attitude of love.

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I took this question to a female freind of mine. She is married to a great guy and she is beautiful. Tall, blonde, blue eyed freakin bombshell. Here is what she said to me(in confidence) "Vince, it is defenitely a part of my DNA, some days I don't want to come to work because I feel ugly and fat"! She went on to tell me that she thinks her husband is cheating and I know for a fact there is no way he would ever do so.
I don't get it girls! What the hell? I told her she is nuts! She just shrugged her shoulders with a crooked grin. This is a woman that I consider to have it all. Beauty, brains, a wonderful family, and on and on.
Damn, now I'm depressed.

I have a lot of gorgeous friends who don't have low self-esteem... So I think you're just unlucky.

But keep in mind, in society's eyes, women aren't supposed to go around telling people they're perfect and gorgeous (maybe the drag queens), but we're kind of taught to not be too bold... And then we all have our fat days.

So we all need an ego (or, as women call it, vanity) boost now and then? I'm all for it. I will help a woman feel as beautiful as she is. And not just to potentially get in her pants, but because it is the right thing to do. Positive karma makes the world go 'round!

I think that it is the case sometimes. I also think it could be for attention.

I LOVE to give attention. Help a woman feel beautiful and special. My ego needs a little stroking now and then too...

I can't say much cause i think that i have a pretty body out side of certin part i'd like surgery, but anyway i don't belive that i'm pretty. I'v had to many past men tell me so and my curent husband of ten years has never told me that i am beautiful. and when i ask him he just says i weould not be with you if i thought different but hearing it is so much more

its the media image of women that do this to us. you have to be exactly as they say or your not pretty. if your not 105 pounds and 5'6'' and exotic then your not pretty enough. we are taught this from the time we are children. eh what can we do. we are emotional, highly sensitive about what others think and we grew up in an image run world.